I own a gEF Ionian coin in a PCGS MS62 holder. There's definetely visible wear on it, but PCGS bumped it ,probably due to its rarity and its Pittman pedigree.
As far as I can tell, a 19th century coin described as "Good EF" will probably be a nice unc, if not gem. If a 17th century coin, it might only be a nice AU, but it could also be a superb gem. It's all very nebulous.
So it's probably more helpful to define "Good EF" as "Caveat Emptor".
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I too would like to know the source of the info you provided. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I have known many, highly respected European dealers that would consider any uncirculated coin as FDC. I have yet to see one of them refer to a coin as BU, Gem BU etc. But I will grant you, there are many American dealers of European coins who do so.
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I own a gEF Ionian coin in a PCGS MS62 holder. There's definetely visible wear on it, but PCGS bumped it ,probably due to its rarity and its Pittman pedigree.
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FDC Fleur de Coin MS-70
Gem BUnc Gem Brilliant Uncirculated MS-67 Uncirculated
Choice BUnc Choice Brilliant Uncirculated MS-65 Uncirculated
BUnc Brilliant Uncirculated MS-63 Uncirculated
Uncirculated MS-60 Uncirculated
GEF Good Extremely Fine AU-55
EF Extremely Fine AU-50
AEF About Extremely Fine XF-45
GVF Good Very Fine XF-40
VF Very Fine VF-30
AVF About Very Fine VF-20
GF Good Fine F-16
F Fine F-12
AF About Fine AF-10
VG Very Good VG-8
G Good G-6 Fair
Fair G-4 Poor
Poor AG-3
What's the source for that data?
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<< <i>Great info, MSD
What's the source for that data? >>
It came from the catalog of Irish coin prices.
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As far as I can tell, a 19th century coin described as "Good EF" will probably be a nice unc, if not gem. If a 17th century coin, it might only be a nice AU, but it could also be a superb gem. It's all very nebulous.
So it's probably more helpful to define "Good EF" as "Caveat Emptor".
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
I too would like to know the source of the info you provided. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I have known many, highly respected European dealers that would consider any uncirculated coin as FDC. I have yet to see one of them refer to a coin as BU, Gem BU etc. But I will grant you, there are many American dealers of European coins who do so.
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