Fake Mantle over $1000 on eBay

nightcrawler729 · March 12, 2005 6:33AM

Is this a fake? It is already at $1000....

Mantle

SHOOTER56 · March 12, 2005 6:48AM

Guaranteed a fake!! Here is your giveaway zero feedback private bidding,what there doing is having a few of their scamming buddies bid the card up so honest bidders think...hey this must be real if people are willing to pay $1000.00 dollars for it. These type of scams are endless on ebay,I mean how lame is their story here..I took this card from my cheating husband,Money orders and Cashiers Checks ONLY, for he can't trace them.RETARDED!!!!

lostdart58 · March 12, 2005 6:48AM

I emailed the high bidder (rosie7495) regarding this auction about an hour ago with the following:

"So ask yourself this....Would a person with no feedback, who is keeping the bidder list private and will not accept returns and only accepting money orders and certified checks actually be selling an authentic 1952 Mantle rookie card? Probably not......"

I will see if I get a reply.

Gemmy10 · March 12, 2005 6:51AM

LOL

jrdolan · March 12, 2005 7:09AM

Well, you have to give him credit for coming with a creative story that involves pretending to be a woman.

That photo, with that peculiar coloring and lighting but sometimes cropped differently, keeps showing up in Mantle scams. I wonder if the scammers are stealing pics from each other. Or if they're all the same scammer.

Since the bidders are hidden, of course, you can't see how many of those 33 bids are shills.

A761506 · March 12, 2005 7:15AM

You probably e-mailed a shill bidder. You'll probably get some smart-ass response. The majority of those bids are shills, although, there are plenty of morons out there who bid on crap like that believing the story.

Stone193 · March 12, 2005 7:15AM

<< I emailed the high bidder (rosie7495) regarding this auction about an hour ago with the following:

"So ask yourself this....Would a person with no feedback, who is keeping the bidder list private and will not accept returns and only accepting money orders and certified checks actually be selling an authentic 1952 Mantle rookie card? Probably not......"

I will see if I get a reply. >>

lostdart
How did you find out who the top bidder was? And if this was changed due to your email - I smell a SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stone

lostdart58 · March 12, 2005 7:24AM

<< 
lostdart
How did you find out who the top bidder was? And if this was changed due to your email - I smell a SHILL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stone >>

Put the auction on your watch list..............Go to your personal EBAY home page and go to the watch list........at the top of the watch list on the right side is a "customize" button......press this button............at this page you have options .....add show high bidder to your page...............................return to your watch list.................SHAZAM.... the high bidder name appears. (private auction or not)

lostdart58 · March 12, 2005 7:27AM

<< You probably e-mailed a shill bidder. You'll probably get some smart-ass response. The majority of those bids are shills, although, there are plenty of morons out there who bid on crap like that believing the story. >>

It has been the same high bidder since about the $550.00 mark. This bidder has too much feedback to be a shill (298 feedback)

IJustLoveCards · March 12, 2005 7:35AM

<< 

<< You probably e-mailed a shill bidder. You'll probably get some smart-ass response. The majority of those bids are shills, although, there are plenty of morons out there who bid on crap like that believing the story. >>

It has been the same high bidder since about the $550.00 mark. This bidder has too much feedback to be a shill (298 feedback) >>

Yes in fact bought some nice psa 10 68's...

I agree doesnt seem shill seems like just doesnt know.

rainmaker · March 12, 2005 7:49AM

Yup, for 0 feedback and supposedly new to EBAY this sellers sure nows his/her way around the EBAY tricks.

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 8:41AM

Hurray! I'm the high bidder. I have 10 Ebay names.
I doubt she'll ship to me since I'm in Finland and don't
speak any english. Hee!

This card is mine, all mine! No one will win but me.

lostdart58 · March 12, 2005 9:08AM

<< Hurray! I'm the high bidder. I have 10 Ebay names.
I doubt she'll ship to me since I'm in Finland and don't
speak any english. Hee!

This card is mine, all mine! No one will win but me. >>

$100,001.11??

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 9:09AM

You're 10X over the amount.

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 9:40AM

<< You're 10X over the amount.

>>

Bryan did you really bid 10,000? If you did and want me to I will dive this card up to about 9,000. This way the jerk-off will get all happy and think he is going to be paid. That will really get him when no one answers his emails or gives him a cent

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 9:45AM

Yes, the max bid is $10,000. If you drive it up, I'll come back again from my Canadian ID and do it again. Let's make it a million bucks. I'm bored and getting drunk tonight.

SHOOTER56 · March 12, 2005 10:05AM

"Let's make it a million bucks. I'm bored and getting drunk tonight"

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:07AM

<< Yes, the max bid is $10,000. If you drive it up, I'll come back again from my Canadian ID and do it again. Let's make it a million bucks. I'm bored and getting drunk tonight. >>

Okjay here goes

Matt

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:09AM

Your turn, my max bis is 20,000

SHOOTER56 · March 12, 2005 10:10AM

man this is too good!! keep going guys!!

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 10:13AM

Who has the high bid?
Anything over $15,000 requires a CC on file
and all my IDs have 0 feedback. I bid 14,999.99.
I can't go any higher. Brb, need another beer.

IJustLoveCards · March 12, 2005 10:26AM

you have been outbid by someone who's last purchase was a drew bledsoe card...

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:29AM

Bryan, Are you gonna bid again? Let me know because I used my real ebay username and dont want to win.

matt

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:30AM

I am high bidder

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 10:35AM

LM,
I can't go pass $15,000 without a CC on file as
explained above. The IDs I'm using all have 0 feedback.
You may want to retract and keep it under $14,999.98.
My max was 14,999.99.

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:36AM

Bryan, I saw your reply about not being able to go over 14,999. I used my real ebay naem so I retracted my high bid.

matt

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 10:38AM

No problem, I'm moving it up again.
Not like the good ol days when you can bid
20,000,000.

I just emailed her and asked if I can buy it for $25,000
if she would end the auction early.
I'm a rich prince from Saudi Arabia and money is no object.

lawnmowerman · March 12, 2005 10:42AM

<< No problem, I'm moving it up again.
Not like the good ol days when you can bid
20,000,000.

I just emailed her and asked if I can buy it for $25,000
if she would end the auction early.
I'm a rich prince from Saudi Arabia and money is no object. >>

Thats great!

EagleEyeKid · March 12, 2005 11:08AM

Here's my email....I'm waiting on a response.

Halo my friiend. My name is prince Lekee Mydeek and I vould like to buy tis card for $25,000 in US dolars. I will pay you handsumely en cash becoz money is no object to me. I can wire you de money or have my personal servants fly out to Kentucky and geve you de money in persons. I own de town of Spavinaw ,OK where he was born and I try to get all of the mickey cards. It is my quest. Not just a quest, but a great passion to get everyting of mickey. I also just bought the Began Central Grade School in Commerce, OK that he went to and will be changing the name soon to the wonderful mickey school. Let me know. I want dis card. Thank you.

IJustLoveCards · March 12, 2005 12:27PM

Lodi · March 12, 2005 12:40PM

<< Here's my email....I'm waiting on a response.

Halo my friiend. My name is prince Lekee Mydeek and I vould like to buy tis card for $25,000 in US dolars. I will pay you handsumely en cash becoz money is no object to me. I can wire you de money or have my personal servants fly out to Kentucky and geve you de money in persons. I own de town of Spavinaw ,OK where he was born and I try to get all of the mickey cards. It is my quest. Not just a quest, but a great passion to get everyting of mickey. I also just bought the Began Central Grade School in Commerce, OK that he went to and will be changing the name soon to the wonderful mickey school. Let me know. I want dis card. Thank you. >>

Post of the day!

softparade · March 12, 2005 1:08PM

you guys is wacked

mudflap02 · March 12, 2005 6:09PM

Pulled - thanks a lot guys. Now how am I supposed to make an honest living if you guys keep messing with my auctions? I even had some Middle eastern guy who was interested in buying, but he won't return my emails.

Sets · March 12, 2005 11:02PM

why was auction ended early and relisted? did the prince win it? LOL

jrdolan · March 12, 2005 11:08PM

Mr. Doofus Scammer ... oh sorry, I forgot he put on a dress to be Ms. Doofus Scammer ... finally caught on that he was being out-scammed. I think it was the $14,000+ bidding and the e-mail from the Mideast prince that tipped him off. Too bad, I would have liked to see eBay charge him the final value fee on that baby.

EagleEyeKid · March 13, 2005 1:22AM

Darn, I didn't win it. I had my servants Habib & Abu all ready to fly down to Kentucky and pay for it in person too. I did get a response from my email though.....all she did was copy my prince name and repeated it to me. Sheesh! For now, someone saved some money.....until the next time.

lostdart58 · March 13, 2005 1:24AM

Who's next??

denwd1 · March 13, 2005 1:37AM

hey it must be real!! he got it from a NY CITY POLICEMAN!! what a line of crap.....mantle

stevek · March 13, 2005 1:42AM

<<< Who's next?? >>>

This guy needs a better inkjet printer and needs to buy a trimmer instead of hand cutting. If you wanna be a scammer - at least learn how to do it properly.

jrdolan · March 13, 2005 2:05AM

I agree on the inkjet -- that's a weird print texture, as if he used the low-quality setting. PSA 8 minimum -- this guy's just plain funny. And he doesn't even try to give himself an out with the "I can't guarantee this is authentic" speech. That means he plans to go *poof* once he has the money.

stevek · March 13, 2005 5:56AM

I didn't initially catch the "PSA 8" statement. That is absolutely hillarious! This guy oughta quit scamming and become a standup comedian. All he would have to do on stage would be to just show that card to the crowd, say it's a PSA 8, and the crowd would laugh for hours.

SHOOTER56 · March 13, 2005 8:47AM

I'm soooooooooooooooooo sick of this bull****....these scammers need to be shot!!

nightcrawler729 · March 13, 2005 11:22AM

Funny thing is the guy who is winning this "PSA 8" auction was winning the other one I posted about earlier before it was 'bidded' up!

lostdart58 · March 13, 2005 12:10PM

<< Funny thing is the guy who is winning this "PSA 8" auction was winning the other one I posted about earlier before it was 'bidded' up! >>

You are correct...the same bidder won two bogus 52 mantle cards within 4 hours of each other!! .....and is also bidding on this third auction.

jrdolan · March 13, 2005 1:02PM

So many of these Mantle scams are just the same card, often the same photo, recycled with a new story. Sometimes the scammer just barely bought it himself on eBay. Makes you wonder how many of these scammers were naive but honest folks until they got hosed -- then slid down in the gutter with the people who ripped them off.

But some of them repeatedly buy Mantle reprints, knowingly paying $100 or more because these fakes don't say "reprint," thinking they will get rich with an even bigger scam. These guys deserve to get stuck with every last one of those fakes.

So who keeps pumping out these unauthorized repros? Dunno who prints 'em, but "starsforless" seems to have a ready supply. They stay just inside the law by selling them as reprints -- but emphasize that the word "reprint" does not appear anywhere on the card. This attracts scammers like moths to a light bulb. They buy and promptly try to resell them, claiming to have got them from a barn sale, estate sale, grandfather, cheating husband, even from inside the door of an old truck.

I think the FBI's internet division should have a couple agents whose job is simply to monitor eBay, buy fake Mantles and Ruths and Wagners, and bust all those scummy scammers. They do have agents hanging around chat rooms looking for child molesters and kiddie porn merchants. eBay would be fertile ground, as well.

nightcrawler729 · March 14, 2005 12:26AM

Wow, now this one is over $1000...

Ripoff

justanoldtimer · March 14, 2005 8:46AM

Hey I live about 15 miles from Glen Burnie MD Hmmm.. I could ask to see the card in person then KICK HIS AS* for scaming LOL
But hey any Ideas for scaming the scamer on this one mantle ??? A fake check for a fake mantle or something LMAO

At Least with the 52 Mantle PSA should stamp a big red FAKE on the front and back of every damn one they get !!! mantle

jrdolan · March 14, 2005 11:47AM

Sellers of these ungraded '52 Topps Mantles in great condition always have hidden feedback, poor feedback, or NO feedback.

NickM · March 14, 2005 11:54AM

jrdolan - they are not staying inside the law, because it's criminal copyright and trademark infringement. Topps is still in business and able to enforce their marks.
Reprinting T-206's is a different story.

Nick

stown · March 16, 2005 12:30AM

Didn't want to start a new thread for this but wanted to bring it to everyone's attention.

'56 Mantle

<< 1956 TOPPS MICKEY MANTLE #136 VG CONDITION. WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET WITH THIS ONE. VERY SOLID CARD WITH NO CREASES. CORNER WEAR BRINGS THE GRADE DOWN TO VG. I DO NOT KNOW THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE CARD AND I KNOW THERE ARE QUITE A FEW REPRINTED MANTLE CARDS ON THE MARKET SO I GUESS I WILL BE FORCED TO LIST THIS CARD AS A REPRINT ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ONE AND IT DOESN'T SAY REPRINT ON THE CARD NOR DOES IT SHOW ANY INDICATION IT IS A REPRINT. I AM JUST UNSURE OF THE CARD SO I MUST LIST IT THIS WAY TO COMPLY WITH EBAY POLICY. >>

nightcrawler729 · March 16, 2005 1:13AM

I just noticed the loophole of trying to figure out the eBay high bidder by adding it to your watch list has been eliminated....now it actually reads 'Private'

Fake Mantle over $1000 on eBay

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