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Untruth in advertising, '33 Babe Ruth

jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
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On this 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth somehow "PSA Evid Trim" was translated to "PSA Near Mint!!!!!!" in the auction title.

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  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
    Well, don't forget that the seller was expecting a 7 and hoping for an 8. Here's what I don't understand: I was taught that a trimmed card was worthless. Yet there are people bidding this card up pretty high for a "worthless" piece of cardboard. I guess that the old line about trimmed cards being worthless doesn't always apply.
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  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    Some of those bidders want a genuine '33 Ruth that looks nice, and this is their best chance. At least PSA has deemed it authentic and not a reprint. That's worth a few hundred bucks to some folks.

    But unfortunately, it's likely that other bidders are thinking to switch it to a PRO or GEM holder, or their own do-it-yourself graded slab, and scam it off on somebody for a profit.

    Edited to add: It's not slabbed! I didn't notice that the first time. So it could easily be a reprint substituted for the real Ruth that was trimmed. Now I wouldn't bid anything.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Why did this one get the 'evid trimming' whereas I've seen 52 Mantles graded 'authentic'?

    Think they should be the same?
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< take your chances and send it to SGC or GAI if you like >>>

    So why didn't he do it?
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    Do you have to request the "authentic" designation if you have some
    doubt that it may be altered in some way? IMO, I think I would want it
    to say authentic because I'm paying for it to slabbed. At least I would know that it's real.
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    Am I mistaken or does that scan not actually show that card "holdered"??
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  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    You are mistaken--looks to me like the card is in a penny slip, and it is partially on top of the card saver /top loader that has the PSA label saying trimmed on it.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Certain "trimmed" cards still retain value. This being one of them.
    How much value? well that would depend on a case by case basis.
    The 206 Wagner would of course still have "value" yet a 75 Rose would not. IMO

    Steve

    Edited to add: that card could have been holdered as Authentic/trimmed (I think) had the submitter requested it. IMO if I had sent that card in I would have used the min grade column and asked that.
    Good for you.
  • lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You are mistaken--looks to me like the card is in a penny slip, and it is partially on top of the card saver /top loader that has the PSA label saying trimmed on it. >>



    So the card is not actually in the PSA case............there is just a PSA label there. That is what it looks like to me........................
    ............in other words the card and the label may not have anything to do with each other.
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭


    << <i>............in other words the card and the label may not have anything to do with each other >>



    That is true, but I am not making that claim in this case as I am not a collector of this set and am not qualified to make a judgement on this card.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    Trimmed cards do still have value, provided that they are authentic. Many collectors would be happy to own a trimmed card that is otherwise real for a fraction of the cost.

    PSA does not usually holder altered cards with a label that says Authentic Trimmed or whatever. When I spoke to them regarding a 1933 Sport Kings Red Grange that was trimmed, I was told that they will only holder very rare or significant cards that have been altered. Even then, I can only say I've seen a handful that have been holdered as altered. '52 Mantle comes to mind. A '33 Ruth may fit the bill, but the submitter probably would have had to call PSA and specially request it.
  • cardfan07cardfan07 Posts: 680 ✭✭
    I've got a card at home, sitting in the top loader with a psa sticker on it stating "min size req". Couldn't I take my favorite 52 Topps Mantle and put it in that same top loader and pass it off?
    I realize there is a cert #, but is everyone going to look it up when you post an auction stating that the card was not graded by PSA? Seems like some would...but all I need is one or two that won't.
    Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Tom Seaver, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock player collector
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