Grade the 1834 dime? ANACS grade revealed!

mr1931S

Bought this original and problem free circulated Bust dime from a seller on ebay some time ago. Recently sent in to ANACS for grading. What do you think ANACS determined for grade of this coin? Did they call it VG8, F12, VF20, VF30, EF40, EF45 or AU50?

Answer: ANACS EF40

mr1931S

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cucamongacoin

VF30

boyhowdy

I like it as VF 25.

Steve

mr1931S

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I should add that the images are the seller's images. As you can see these images are low resolution.

fivecents

VF35

mr1931S

As far as I know, ANACS does not use the numbers 25 and 35, ie. VF25 or VF35. VF20 is "typical" and VF30 is "choice" for the wear grade VF per the Official A.N.A. Grading Standards for United States Coins.

Okay, I've seen the numbers 25, 30, and 35 guessed thus far. ANACS did NOT assign the letter/number VF25 or VF35 to this coin. Those guesses are saying to me that, at the least, all three persons who have posted guesses here so far think the coin is "choice" for the grade.

I'll reveal the actual grade ANACS assigned a bit later after more guesses.

Barry

EF40

mr1931S

I'm looking for at least 30 different guesses on this one. The images aren't very good but have no fear. Nobody is going to be crucified or ridiculed for not guessing correctly what ANACS determined the grade to be for this 1834 JR-1 dime.

Hint: There is no mint luster.

mr1931S

boyhowdy and fivecents take another guess if you choose. Thanks for your guesses to all so far.

Is the coin an "8," a "12", a "20", a "30", a "40", a "45", or a "50" according to ANACS?

lordmarcovan

<< <i>I like it as VF 25. >>





(Actually, looking at the reverse, I'd go a little higher, maybe.)

Edit- I see I'm off, already.

I'll go with 30, then.

Cladiator

35

BigD5

xf/40

mr1931S

gladiator, boyhowdy and fivecents feel free to make another guess. The coin was NOT considered to be assigned the number "25" or "35" by ANACS presumably because these numbers are not used for grading coins in the Official A.N.A. Grading Standards for United States Coins. As far as I know, ANACS uses this guide.

Interestingly, the "official" grader for the ANA is NGC. I recently saw an NGC Bust Half graded as AU53. No such designation exists in the ANA guide??????????

Thanks again for all guesses so far. Got a ways to go to get to 30 guesses. Keep 'em coming.

ccex

20

Cladiator

Woops, sorry 1874. I didn't really read your original post, just saw a guess the grade thread lol. VF35 is how I would grade the coin. As to how ANACS grades it...I guess I'd say XF40.

ms70

35

mr1931S

No problem, cladiator. Sorry for misspelling your ID name. Thanks for resubmitting a guess.

Out of 9 guesses so far we have:

VF20-1
VF25-1 (boyhowdy, pick "20" or "30" if you choose to do so.)
VF30-2
VF35-2 (fivecents and ms70, pick "30" or "40" if you choose to do so.)
EF40-3

Range of guesses so far is VF20 (typical VF) to EF40 (typical EF, or XF). Average CONSENSUS grade number so far is 32.7778, so the CONSENSUS grade opinion so far is that my 1834 dime grades at least "choice" VF or VF30 according to the A.N.A. standards guide.

Another hint: The coin was NOT graded VG8 or AU50 by ANACS.

Is it a "12", a "20", a "30", a "40", or a "45" as determined by ANACS? What do you think the grade was determined to be, consistent with numbers used by ANACS for grading circulated coins?

I'd like to see some more guesses. Agreed, the images of my 1834 dime are not the greatest. Don't worry if you don't consider yourself an expert grader.

prooflike

40

mr1931S

After 10 guesses, the CONSENSUS is:


Range-VF20 to EF40.
Median-VF35 (this letter/number combination, if used by ANACS, would be for a coin between "choice VF" (VF30) and typical EF (EF40)
Average-VF33.5 (335/10)

Another hint (I'm just full of these, aren't I?): The A.N.A. guide is silent on a panel's ability to consensus grade a coin using low resolution images. The images are, however, typical of what one will see on ebay. Not too great but not too bad either. "Tweener" images is all you all here have to grade this 1834 dime.

We're trying to get a handle on liberal v. conservative at ANACS. ANACS graded this 1834 dime better than VG8 but less than AU50. What number do you think ANACS gave to this circulated 1834 Bust dime?

By participating in this thread with a guess you are helping do important work. 20 more guesses needed.

mr1931S

dtkk49a

45

KurtHorn

VF 30

UncleJoe

A little too much obverse wear for EF for me.

I call it VF+ and another plus for the reverse.

Joe.

poorguy

VF-35

PTVETTER

my guess VF 30

when will we all find out the Real Grade?????

Numismanic

VF 30

mr1931S

UncleJoe, you did not give a number but that's okay. For purpose of this excercise, "VF30" is taken to be your number for this dime. No skewing will occur by using "30" for your grade. Thanx for your guess.

There have been 14 guesses so far. Average grade consensus is now 33.9286, up from 33.5. Median is still 35. Range is VF20 to EF45.

We're looking for 16 more guesses. Get your feet wet. The water is warm and it's not deep.

mr1931S

"when will we all find out the Real Grade?????"

I'm hoping for at least 30 guesses to establish statistical significance. I will reveal the ANACS grade for this coin after 30 guesses have been made.

mgoodm3

vf30.

UncleJoe

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The suspense is killing me.

Joe.

Barry

You're dragging this out too long. We want to know!

ldhair

VF35

mr1931S

Okay.It appears Idhair is the last poster of a grade guess to make 18 total. I can live with that.

Range-20 to 45
Average-33.33 (600/18)
VF20-1
VF25-1
VF30-7
VF35-4
EF40-4
EF45-1

ANACS holdered the 1834 dime as EF40. My opinion is that ANACS is right in the middle on this one, not being too liberal and not being too conservative. An 1832 dime that I submitted with the '34 did receive a "30" but the '32 is definitely not quite as sharp in details as the '34. The difference that can be seen in amount of wear is not huge, though. Of course, the grader(s) at ANACS would easily notice this difference because the two coins are in their hands at the same time, virtually side by side. Apparently, they considered the '34 to be sharp enough to call it EF40.

Thanks to all for participating with a guess.

mr1931S

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