1999 Proof Set - 10 Coin with SBA !? First time I've seen this. Legit?

xbob

I saw this on eBay today. 1999 Proof Clad Set that includes the Proof SBA. Ended without meeting reserve. I didn't bid but I found it interesting.

Is this legit? It sure looks it. If so, does anybody know how many sets like this exist?

Link to ebay auction

FatMan

Nope, doesn't exist. The SBA was sold as a separate proof set. This guy is using an insert from 2000-2003.

Bochiman

What Fatman said.
Also, I would be very cautious of someone doing that as there is no telling if they are substituting in lower coins and keeping the good ones.
You are likely to get f'ed up coins.

You should catch him on another one of these and ask him a question about the set...
"Were you the original buyer?"
"Do you deal with coins much?"
"Have you bought from the US Mint before?"
"Do you like trying to be underhanded and scam people????"

See what he says on those!

xbob

<< <i>Nope, doesn't exist. The SBA was sold as a separate proof set. This guy is using an insert from 2000-2003. >>



Tricky. (aren't they all...) I wonder if the case has cracks or any signs of tampering. It doesn't seem like they would come apart clean but I've never tried.

If I see that again we will have to get the questioning started! A good 'ol fashion forum flaming auction ender. Of course it's still possible that the seller bought it this way not knowing it's a fake and is now selling it without doing the research, but the pessimist in me says probably not.

NumisMe

I've seen this quite a bit, actually...
They take the cards that are left over from the 2000 Proof sets, after removing the coins for grading, etc. and insert the 1999 coins plus the SBA. It's fairly easy to do, but not very ethical.

TheRock

Not a chance. Only 9 in this set.

FatMan

<< <i>Tricky. (aren't they all...) I wonder if the case has cracks or any signs of tampering. It doesn't seem like they would come apart clean but I've never tried. >>

These covers easily come apart. They are not sealed in any way. Take it apart, switch coins, put back together and sell as original mint sealed set. Happens all the time.

PhillyJoe

The seller's biggest mistake was not taking the $112 for this unicorn proof set.

Joe

dbldie55

I have one of these sets that I put together in 2000.

TerrapinWill

did you notice that the "ask a seller a question" link is gone?

Conder101

The "Ask the seller a question" link disappears once the auction ends. That's normal. If you click on the sellers name though it tkes you to his feedback page and there will be a link there for "Contact member".

richbeat

The Mint should have included the date on the insert that goes inside the case.

Conder101

One, the mint probably didn't realize it would become a problem. Two they buy the holders in large quantity and lftovers from one year can continue to be used the next year. If the inserts were dated any left over at the end of the year would be wasted. That was the reason we got the 1979 SBA in a plastic ring in the 1979 proof sets and the brass treasury medals in the 1982 proof sets. The mint was using up leftover holders from the previous year rather than waste them.

Merch

LMAO!!!!!! If you look real close you can see the SBA has a "P" on it, and the rest have a "S" on it. Heehee, Im smart ............well not really.

DRG

Seller should have taken the money.

He does not say it is original and in fact points out that the SBA is not listed on the insert.

If someone wants to pay for the crackout work it took to put this set together, good for them.

Steve

<< <i>Seller should have taken the money.

He does not say it is original and in fact points out that the SBA is not listed on the insert.

If someone wants to pay for the crackout work it took to put this set together, good for them. >>



Agreed. Seller should have taken the money.

The "crackout" of US Proof sets is as simple as nudging the seam with a knife and prying it appart. I do it every year to breakout my proof state quarter and my Lincoln proof coin collections. NO BIG DEAL. Steve

aficionado

maybe he was just testing the waters, with a real high reserve.