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SCD Authentic is at it again!

fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
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More trouble in paradise for SCDA and it's authenticating crew! image

Scott
Registry Sets:
T-205 Gold PSA 4 & up
1967 Topps BB PSA 8 & up
1975 Topps BB PSA 9 & up
1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
1981 Topps FB PSA 10
1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
3,000 Hit Club RC PSA 5 & Up

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  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,586 ✭✭✭✭
    What's this in reference to? I can't follow the link at my job.
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
    Troy R. Kinunen, Director of SCDA Authentication Services, purchased a Bart Star Game Issued jersey from ebay. He and Lou Lampson have issued LOA's and LOO's stating that it is a Game Used Jersey and it is now up for auction in the current
    Vintage Authentics auction. I do not like the idea of buying an item with the sole purpose of flipping the item and adding your own LOA to boost the price (as it appears that this is the case with the item in question). You would think they would have learned something from the DiMaggio Bat debacle! image

    Scott
    Registry Sets:
    T-205 Gold PSA 4 & up
    1967 Topps BB PSA 8 & up
    1975 Topps BB PSA 9 & up
    1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
    1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
    1981 Topps FB PSA 10
    1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
    1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
    3,000 Hit Club RC PSA 5 & Up

    My Sets
  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    notice the comment signed by Troy:

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    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    That would be like me starting my own grading company and grading all my cards favorably in order to resell them. Very shady. One of the posters was spot on:

    "My opinion
    It doesn't matter that Troy didn't have anything to do with the actual authentication. It's wrong that the head of SCDA gets an SCDA letter on a high ticket item that's being auctioned.
    Doesn't matter how you spin it- it's a conflict of interest. You're either a dealer or an authenticator, but you can't be both on your item."

    It simply doesn't matter whether the jersey is the real deal or not. On a side note, do you think Troy has ever had one of his own items not pass the authentication process?

    Lee
  • wlf3wlf3 Posts: 356
    is it any different than Mastro buying a collection then reselling it?
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    I thought mastro used third party graders, they don't authenticate the items themselves--so yes, it is different. If I am wrong about Mastro, then I apologize.
    I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092 ✭
    Mastro isn't doing anything to increase the value of the cards they buy, they are merely putting them up for resale through their own auctions. It would be like the owner of ebay buying something from a flea market and listing it in his own auction; it's not going to bring any more or less than it would have if somebody else was selling it. If they were to authenticate the game-worn stuff themselves, or put cards in a "Mastro GEM MINT 10" holder, then yes it would be a conflict of interest. However, if they show favoritism in how they market the stuff they own above every other consigner's, they are clearly not honoring the agreement between them and their consigners. I've never bought anything or even looked hard at any Mastro auction, so I don't know their business model. But if I were a consigner with them, I would prefer that my stuff be placed in a separate auction than the stuff they are selling themselves just to make sure my stuff gets a fair shake.

    Lee
  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    At this point it's not longer "third-party authentication." It's "first-party authentication" which should be assigned an appropriate weight. Of course, there's no reason to doubt authenticity, but they are certainly hoping whatever reputation SCD has earned to increase profit.
    WANTED:
    2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
    2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
    Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs

    Nothing on ebay
  • CoolidgeCoolidge Posts: 96 ✭


    << <i>Mastro isn't doing anything to increase the value of the cards they buy >>



    Ever hear of "stabilization"?
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  • pcpc Posts: 743 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Mastro isn't doing anything to increase the value of the cards they buy >>



    Ever hear of "stabilization"? >>


    sure
    if a large oil company in texas ( or from anywhere else )
    participate in a secondary offering the underwriters are permitted
    to manipulate the price of the stock before and after the
    offering.this is known as "stabilization".
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    Money is your ticket to freedom.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Getting them to stay neatly in place...

    Stabilization.

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    Mike
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