Does this look like an SCG holder to anyone?

RipublicaninMass

What the..............

Knuckles

That's a old SGC holder.. How they use to make em..

envoy98

Yep, old holder. I probably have some cards in that old holder still. Nothing unusual.

mikeschmidt

SGC *does not* guarantee that the old holders would go into a present-day holder at the same grade....

envoy98

mikeschmidt- Interesting to hear that... Any explanation as to why? Seems it would put a lot of distrust in them altogether if they admitted that there old "standards" were too lenient or their old graders were not trained properly or had some outside influence issues.

cardfan07

WWPSAD? (what would PSA do?). Would they guarantee old holders crossing into today's holder, with increased scrutiny? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was no to any of them. Let's face it, grading has evolved over the years...I've seen some older holder cards that didn't really look like they belong. I'd say everything has been refined with time and experience.

mikeschmidt

<< <i>mikeschmidt- Interesting to hear that... Any explanation as to why? Seems it would put a lot of distrust in them altogether if they admitted that there old "standards" were too lenient or their old graders were not trained properly or had some outside influence issues. >>



The reason is that the cards are overgraded, often.

Different ownership structure. It was the Merkel years as well - which had a few problems overall. There is an inherent discount on prices realized for all SGC cards in the old holder.

RonD

What about this one?

Knuckles

What about it?

mikeschmidt

<< <i>What about it? >>



Probably that it shows SGC 88, 7.5

SGC 88 = 8.0

SGC 86 = 7.5

I'm not sure what is going on