My 11 Cent Error Coin- better pics
chelle
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Hi all, I am new to the site here. I come across this coin about 5-6 years ago and thought it was pretty cool so I kept it. I was wondering your opinions on how rare and/or valuable this find might be. The pictures are a little dark, I set the coin on top of some bright white paper but it come out kinda dark. Let me know what your opinions are. Thanks
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They're quite rare and quite valuable.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was $1000 or more.
Not Thousands, still a great piece.
<< <i> Great double denomination, however price is about 500-600.00 >>
Well errors aren't my specialty. LOL. I just said that because the other one I saw like that had sold for a few thousand
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<< <i>Great double denomination, however price is about 500-600.00
Not Thousands, still a great piece. >>
I don't know. Check out Fred Weinberg's site. He's got a number of double denoms, this one in particular he's asking $3950 for.
He's also got a 1999 Cent/2000 Dime that's going for $6000 something.
I think you've got quite a valuable find.
And welcome. Great initial post.
<< <i>You should probably have them graded by a tpg. >>
k, now im new to all this so these acronyms are gonna kick my butt... so what exactly would a tpg be?
And also, do you think I should send it out to pcgs to be authenticated etc? The whole dates are not showing for both strikes. the first three numbers are for both the dime and penny. Would they be able to determine if they are two different dates or same date etc.. ? I don't know how that works but would be cool if they could tell me the years they were.
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Looks like you have a pretty cool find there...
Just a suggestion...Edit the title of your post to include Error Coin and you might get a lot more responces.
Fred Weinberg does read this forum!
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<< <i>It does let you edit. Just edit the first post I think >>
yep, that worked.. thanks
Last year i did a search for someone locally with an eleven cent piece and selling prices
on ebay ranged from 400-600.
Know a 1999 2000 different date is a whole different story.
but 6000 is a bit much IMO
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Cool coin! Makes Lincoln look like he's bald and a big snauzola.
Haha, yea it does.. makes him look like a troll
New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
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<< <i>Great double denomination, however price is about 500-600.00
Not Thousands, still a great piece. >>
I don't know. Check out Fred Weinberg's site. He's got a number of double denoms, this one in particular he's asking $3950 for.
He's also got a 1999 Cent/2000 Dime that's going for $6000 something.
I think you've got quite a valuable find.
And welcome. Great initial post. >>
The coin in this post appears to not have the last digit in the date. Therefore, this coin would not bring as large a premium as full dated coins. Also, the prices on this error type depend heavily on the date and how much of the initial strike remains. For example, a 2002 dated error such as this would command a much larger premium than one dated 1995.
As with the aforementioned, a dual date double denomination, such as the 1999/2000 coin is a TOTALLY different story than a coin simply struck by two designs in the same year.
All that said, if the last digit in the date is missing on this coin, I would suggest the price be close to the $300 to $400 range. If the date is full, I would suggest the aforementioned $400 to $600 range.
Chelle, this is a great coin to have. I only own one double denomination and just love it. And, in case your question was not answered, tpg is third party grading, such as PCGS, or NGC, or ANACS to name a few. Also, if you are a new collector, I suggest only sticking with the three services I mentioned as there are others out there that are not as reliable.
This is just the neatest thing I have ever seen. The pictures really do it no justice because it looks so much nicer in person than it does in the pictures. It is a nice shiny silver, like it was never used. The sides are strange too. They are half ridged like a dime and half flat like the penny and you can see both the copper color and silver color on the side. Like its half and half.. Kinda neat, i tried to get a picture of that but it didn't come out too well.
Herb
The seem to be selling on eBay fairly reliably in the $550-$650 range. Off eBay, they seem to be quite a bit higher, in the $900-$1000 range or more. I'd say that $600 is probably the "right" price, but hey if you find someone to pay more, there's no knocking that. You shouldn't have any problem getting $500 from someone (like me) in a heartbeat if you're desperate to cash in.
That said, in this particular case, there are a couple of factors that keep it out of the highest end of the value range:
a) There doesn't appear to be any date at all (either on the second cent strike or the original dime). That's a biggie.
b) It's raw, not slabbed. An error collector wouldn't necessarily care, but it's the mainstream buyers who seem to be offering the most money, and they definitely do care
c) It's hard to tell the grade, but I see some stuff on the rim above "Trust" (on the cent strike) that doesn't make me happy.
All in all, though, a great piece. Every collector should have one.
<< <i>If it is missing the last digit of the date, is there a way to tell if they are from different years? >>
Except for something obvious (like 199x versus 200x), you're out of luck. Sorry.
jonathan
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
That 1957 Quarter might be a magician trick coin. Examine if the reverse is in correct alignment with the obverse. Also, look just inside the rims for a second edge line where it looks like it might open. If it is, you probably wouldn't be able to open it without the special ring needed to slam out the opening. Of course, this is only an idea of what it might be. There's a good chance it's something else but I don't know what.
edit: Oh yeah, the silver sound...duh me for overlooking the "obvious".
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<< <i> Also, what you are hearing is money being lost by dropping that coin onto a hard surface. >>
Why you say that? They worth much?
<< <i> Awesome cent/dime! What's the story behind it? Found in change? Just curious.
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I found the coin years ago. I worked in a store and just happened to notice it was different. So I exchanged it with a dime from my pocket and I have had it ever since. I thought it was the neatest thing I ever seen. Never really put it out there to show anyone until recently.
<< <i>Nope, what you are hearing is the delicious ringing of a solid silver coin >>
The ringing of a "solid silver coin" would hardly be described as having a "hollow" sound. For a 1957 quarter to have a hollow sound it would either have to have a seriously flawed planchet (cracked or severely laminated) or be a counterfeit.
Very interesting coin, thanks for sharing and WELCOME
your coin
COIN FOR SALE FOR $3950
What do you think they will grade them?
Now I have 7 pictures of coins on my hard drive..
Cool error! Looks to be in good shape, maybe MS-63 or 64. Looks like some haze (and possibly fingerprints) are on it, so you may want to have it conserved by NCS before grading.
I resemble that remark !
<< <i>your first picture looks amazing close to the one up for $3950, with subtle differences. Looks like it could be genuine and not "hand made" as mentioned earlier.
Very interesting coin, thanks for sharing and WELCOME
your coin
COIN FOR SALE FOR $3950
There is still a big difference between the subject coin and the referenced coin. The subject coin has no full date, or at least it appears so by the pictures and Chelle has not stated otherwise. The referenced coin has a $3950 price tage because: (1) it is dated, and (2) it is double dated, which is quite scarce.
Trying to compare these two coins would be like someone walking up to you with a Lincoln cent dated 192X-P, where the X is missing the last digit because of normal wear, and someone trying to sell it to you as a 1922 plain. That is the best example I can come up with right now.
I am willing to bet this coin is 100% genuine. And, it is a very ncie coin at that.
Chelle, congratulations on a nice coin find. I would keep the coin in your collection as a very nice show piece.
A friend of mine just sold the two that he had for $1000.00 each. Both coins had the two seperate dates showing.
I would send it to NGC or PCGS and get it holdered.
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etexmike
That is a great piece. Thanks for the pics.
Please be sure that you hold the coin by the sides. Otherwise you get fingerprints all over the design!
I just purchased a 2000 11 cent piece graded PCGS MS67 here is the link to the site I bought it from L=null]http://www.greattoning.com/inventory.htm#dimes[/L]null scroll down to the bottom.
Here is a 1992 double demonination in a MS63 holder that sold last June for about $1,500
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Not buying this one for inventory just putting it away. Dick at great toning has some nice coins. Check out his inventory at www.greatoning.com.
<< <i>Chelle,
Please be sure that you hold the coin by the sides. Otherwise you get fingerprints all over the design! >>
Wont that hurt the two toned colors of the side?
I haven't handled it in years. I have just recently taken it out to post up. I am wanting to sell it to someone who will be able to enjoy it more than I will. With my kids, it just sits in storage. Hopefully I can get a good price for it.
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<< <i>Chelle,
Please be sure that you hold the coin by the sides. Otherwise you get fingerprints all over the design! >>
Wont that hurt the two toned colors of the side?
I haven't handled it in years. I have just recently taken it out to post up. I am wanting to sell it to someone who will be able to enjoy it more than I will. With my kids, it just sits in storage. Hopefully I can get a good price for it. >>
Chelle,
Holding it by the sides will not harm the coin. People would much rather only have prints on the edges than having them on the face of the coin.
Regarding selling it for a good price, why not list it on eBay and see what it brings? Several people have given their opinions on the prices, including myself, but the comparisons that have been brough to this thread are like comparing apples and oranges in the case of your coin. I think if you list it on eBay with good pictures, then you will get the best price. I would be willing to guess that the maximum it will bring is $400.00 since the coin is not fully dated.
Or, if you do not like eBay, try doing an auction here in the bst forum. Some people have done that and I think it worked well for them.
By the way, you never did clarify. Does your coin have a full date or not? One of your posts, you state, if the last digit was missing...But, you never said if it was or was not. So, what is the verdict?
and thank you for sharing your great find.
If you are considering selling it I would definately consider discussing it with Fred Weinberg, and maybe he can submit it for you as well.
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and made money.
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By the way, you never did clarify. Does your coin have a full date or not? One of your posts, you state, if the last digit was missing...But, you never said if it was or was not. So, what is the verdict? >>
It seems that part of the dime last digit is there. I am not able to see the last digit of the penny. I have not looked with a magnifying glass or anything. I do not have one.. but I don't think it is there for the penny. The mint mark and part of the last digit for the dime is there but not the penny.
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If you are considering selling it I would definately consider discussing it with Fred Weinberg, and maybe he can submit it for you as well.
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I have emailed him about the coin already. He emailed me back. I am still deciding on what I will do.. sell it raw or clean and grade it then sell it. Not sure which I will do. Not sure if there are benefits in grading it first. Im pretty new to this..
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waaaaahhhh...... I sold my last cent struck on dime for $175 about 9-10 years ago.
and made money.
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If I get more than 10c I will be making money on this.. Thats all I got into it.
<< <i>I have emailed him about the coin already. He emailed me back. I am still deciding on what I will do.. sell it raw or clean and grade it then sell it. Not sure which I will do. Not sure if there are benefits in grading it first. Im pretty new to this. >>
Chelle-
DO NOT CLEAN the coin! If you clean the coin, it will not get graded. Ask anyone you want, DO NOT CLEAN THE COIN! I repeat-DO NOT CLEAN THE COIN!
Most error dealers and collectors will be able to tell that it is real, so there really is no need to have it graded, unless you want to.
What did Fred tell you about the coin?
I would be interested in the coin, but I need to know the date details before making offers or even consider buying.