Chain smoking in the coin shop!

dwsblue

Would you buy any coins from a shop were the owner chain smokes all day long, even if he is a nice guy?

indianabyron

Yip I would.. Those are his lungs and not mine. I would just wear a non rebreather air mask when I went there.


Byron

DHeath

I wouldn't care. Some of my best coin stories and purchases have come from shops just like that.

BigE

Maybe eat beans before you go in there to clear the air----------------BigE

jdimmick

One of our local shops in town the owner smokes all day, and takes an occasional drink or two??

jim

UncleWiggly

I probably would. I'm sure I've already bought coins that have had chain smokers hovered over them. As a matter of fact, if I bought something like a 1893S or 1899CC Morgan in VF or XF range I would make it a prerequisite.


Jerry

Bear

Secondary smoke is even more deadly then direct inhalation.

I would feel very uncomfortable in such a smoke filled environment.

Also I hate the smell of clothing when it gets perminated with the

smell of the smoke. Under these conditions I would quickly leave the store

and not return, ever.

carl

Actually if they have anything good buy it fast because they probably won't be around to long. Anyway, the coins don't care who smokes and who doesn't. Get one of those face masks like in the hospital when you go to that shop. Always good for a laugh anyway and who knows, someone may take a hint.

fountainheadgold

I do not smoke and I certainly would buy from a smoker, that whole second hand smoke thing is a bunch of huey

K6AZ

With my condition, I wouldn't even be able to walk into the shop. People need to understand how dangerous second hand smoke is, especially to people with asthma and other respiratory illnesses.

fountainheadgold

<< <i>With my condition, I wouldn't even be able to walk into the shop. People need to understand how dangerous second hand smoke is, especially to people with asthma and other respiratory illnesses. >>



I agree people with asthma should not be around second hand smoke, probably also should not live in a major city, it would be much healthier living in the country and breathing the good air

Bear

Cough, cough, hack, cough.

TonedPeaceNut

I live in LA -- even the air here is considered more deadly then 2nd hand smoke.

BTW -- if you live within 500 feet of a major freeway -- the air outside your house is probably worse than second hand smoke. The higher temperatures inside an engine will vaporize chemicals more effeciently than a lit cigarette.

Free floating benzene -- a by product of exhaust fumes and gas fumes has been linked to several cancers -- not lung though.


TPN

PS -- I'd probably have a cigarette with him as we discussed coins!

LindeDad

Don't think the coins inhale so don't think it will lower there value.

Jody526

<< <i>Would you buy any coins from a shop were the owner chain smokes all day long, even if he is a nice guy? >>



It would depend on how much he wanted for his coins.

Jdurg

Second hand smoke isn't any more dangerous than first-hand smoke is. There is absolutely no scientific way that it can be more toxic.

fountainheadgold

BAJJERFAN

Its not about whether second hand smoke is more dangerous. The point is that breathing air which has been polluted with smoke from a first hand smoker is just as unhealthy to a nonsmoker as the actual act of smoking a cigar or cigarette is.
I once got some slabbed coins from someone who was a smoker. It took weeks before that obnoxious smell finally went away.

JRocco

I have no problem with that.

Conder101

<< <i>I agree people with asthma should not be around second hand smoke, probably also should not live in a major city, it would be much healthier living in the country and breathing the good air >>


Right, with the hay, corn, and soybeans in bloom, the pesticide, herbicide spraying and right down wind from the chicken/turkey/hog farm.

Millertime

It seems like half the coins I buy on eBay are from smokers. When I open the package I can smell the smoke, sometimes it's pretty bad.

lonroy

when you open the package of coins won on eBay and they smell like smoke, that is pretty bad.

I bought some slabbed coins on eBay and I eventually sold them because they stunk so bad of nicotine/second hand smoke.

No matter what I did I could not get the smell off, it was attached to the slab and would not come off.

I aired them out on my back porch like a winter jacket after a night at the bar and even that did not work.

This is a true story.

Neptune

Got dip?

Denny Crane

CUEBALL

I use to smoke but quit,would not want to be around it again.I may go there but it would be for very short visits.

MORGANHUNTER2

if it's in a slab- use windex with amonia...
If its raw- use ms70 with a alcohol rinse then a water rinse.

second hand smoke stories exhaust me- I also lived in L A- whe you look out over the mountains and you can see the brown haze at 7 am- you know its a bad day folks- try living near a steel mill or a refinery- want to talk about second hand air- it's not second hand smoke folks that will kill ya- it's business enterprise that is doing it, or we used to call it PROGRESS.

hamiltonjh

Yes, and I have, in Florida when I was stationed at Eglin AFB....in the panhandle.

we were BOTH smoking

mrearlygold

<< <i>I use to smoke but quit,would not want to be around it again.I may go there but it would be for very short visits. >>












VERY short.


Tom

ibzman350

"Chain smoking in the coin shop!"


My question is "How do they get the chains in those little papers" ???



Herb

Coinhusker1

<< <i>I live in LA -- even the air here is considered more deadly then 2nd hand smoke.

BTW -- if you live within 500 feet of a major freeway -- the air outside your house is probably worse than second hand smoke. The higher temperatures inside an engine will vaporize chemicals more effeciently than a lit cigarette.

Free floating benzene -- a by product of exhaust fumes and gas fumes has been linked to several cancers -- not lung though.


TPN

PS -- I'd probably have a cigarette with him as we discussed coins! >>



TPN, I thought things improved from the 1970s (I lived on the west coast then as a kid), but maybe not. Do they still have the "third stage smog alerts" where they sky is so dark with smog they tell you to stay indoors?

Gemini

Chain Smoking---It's not the coughin that bothers you often......it's the coffin they carry you off in.

mrearlygold

<< <i>Chain Smoking---It's not the coughin that bothers you often......it's the coffin they carry you off in. >>








Hey, dying is the easy part. Maybe becoming a vegetable from a stroke, now that's a tough way to go. I mean, hey, if you're dead, your dead. No biggy although getting little pieces of you chopped up and thrown away along the way can't possibly be much fun. But now imagine sitting there, drool coming down the mouth and not even realizing it much less being able to wipe it.

That's one reason to avoid those people.

I think of how long people were urging me to stop and I didn't listen. I wish I did.


Tom
Quit all forms of nicotine 31 days ago.

RYK

It is my obervation that there are disproportionate number of smokers in coins (dealers and collectors). It saddens me that some of my friends in coins are smokers--I have no friends in other areas of my life that smoke. I certainly respect the rights of others to do what they want to do--so long is it does not affect me. I personally avoid any venue where there is a lot of smoke in the ambient air (bars, clubs, airport smoking lounges, etc.)

Conder101

<< <i>I also lived in L A- whe you look out over the mountains and you can see the brown haze at 7 am- you know its a bad day folks- >>


Back when I lived in Louisville the air there was about the second worse in the country with only LA being worse. (Louisvill sits in a basin surrounded by hills. Wind and storms tend to get diverted around th city and the air in the bowl stagnates and collects pollution.) On a bad day you sometimes literally could not see the house across the street. At one time the city got in trouble with the EPA because they had to declare air pollution alerts for 58 days in a row when the air quality was in the "Very Unhealthy" range. (a reading of 200 on the scale they were using) They were told they'd have to do something about it or face large fines. Well they took care of the problem and they haven't had an alert since, but they've come close several times. They changed the scale so a 200 Very Unhealthy was now just a 100 and was Moderate. To get to 200 on the new scale the air would have to have reached 400 on the old one. And like I said, theyve come lose several times.

TonedPeaceNut

<< <i>TPN, I thought things improved from the 1970s (I lived on the west coast then as a kid), but maybe not. Do they still have the "third stage smog alerts" where they sky is so dark with smog they tell you to stay indoors? >>



Not anymore -- air quality has improved, but just because there isn't "smog" doesn't mean there isn't pollutants.

Also, anyone here guess to care what they are drinking in their water. Hexochromium, as well as other chemicals from run-off and farming can cause more damage and the government hasn't revised their acceptable limits standards in awhile.

Life is a death sentence -- just enjoy it while you're here. To me living a long life is not nearly as important as living a full life. Spend some time at a nursing home and ask yourself if you really want those 10 extra years all that "good living" is going to get you.


TPN

K6AZ

TPN, that's a myth. COPD caused by smoking can hit people as early as the mid 30s. I know from experience. When you are 38 and can't work because you are constantly out of breath it will be too late.

XpipedreamR

My only concern about buying coins in such a venue would be the possible effects of smoke on the coins. I wouldn't be spending enough time there to worry about health effects.

fcloud

Maybe the coins from a shop like this would all be toned. The only problems is would the be NT or AT! To me it would not matter. I don't smoke and never have, and I don't care if other people smoke. Smokers have rights, too. I buy the coin--not the smoke.

fishcooker

Smoke smell is repulsive. Doing business in a repulsive environment is not necessary for me - there's too many other ways to shop for coins.

As far as living a full life - go check out the 40-50 year old patients (living) with throat cancer from smoking. And the ones with jawbones missing from bone cancer. I doubt your outlook will be the same afterward.

Barry

<< <i>Smoke smell is repulsive. Doing business in a repulsive environment is not necessary for me - there's too many other ways to shop for coins. >>


I agree. Smokers have no idea how bad they, and everything they own, wreak from the stench of cigarettes.

RYK

TPN, that's a myth. COPD caused by smoking can hit people as early as the mid 30s. I know from experience. When you are 38 and can't work because you are constantly out of breath it will be too late.

As far as living a full life - go check out the 40-50 year old patients (living) with throat cancer from smoking. And the ones with jawbones missing from bone cancer. I doubt your outlook will be the same afterward.

To me living a long life is not nearly as important as living a full life.

The youngest person I ever saw with lung cancer was 26. I was a resident at the time. She had trouble swallowing because the cancer was invading her esophagus. Great living-eh?

mrearlygold

ER

How do coins tone with cigarette smoke constantly bathing them?

66Tbird

I can't even go into a place where there are smokers. Having a trach and having my lungs just fill with fluid in a matter of minutes requires fast action. Come dam close to dying more than once because of someone elses right to screw up the rest of us. Not that I'm hostile to the whole thing, I just have to carry a MEDICAL BAG EVERY WHERE I GO!!!

nOW If the price was right, and the coin's smell didn't remind me of a ashtray, I might buy it, provided I can get outside before I CHOKE TO DEATH

TonedPeaceNut

<< <i>The youngest person I ever saw with lung cancer was 26. I was a resident at the time. She had trouble swallowing because the cancer was invading her esophagus. Great living-eh? >>



Have you ever known anyone to develop lung cancer without exposure???? Happens -- but why?

I'm not saying that everyone should smoke, or even that smoking is okay, or that exposure to 2nd hand smoke is okay. My only point is that most people don't do the research and take the time to realize what they are exposed to on a daily basis. Even if you live, what you think is the healthiest lifestyle possible -- it doesn't necessary mean you aren't going to get cancer or heart disease.

Most of what occurs to you in your life -- health-wise -- is more genetics than anything. Granted exposure can increase chances, but its not always the proximate cause.

My comment about enjoying life was more aimed at -- no stress. As Americans we work more & harder than any other nation. We also have the highest death rates for cancers and heart disease. We as a nation have focused on smoking as a major cause of the problem.

Interestingly enough the French have a more fat rich diet and smoke and drink much more than we do, but yet they live longer on average and have lower rates of cancer & heart disease.

But then again they take 5 weeks of vacation, enjoy life and drink it in. We could stand to learn at least that from the French.

IMHO -- stress is the silent killer of Americans.

Perhaps, just perhaps its easier to put a bullseye on smoking as opposed to how we live our lifes.

More enjoyment -- less stress.


TPN

RYK

Have you ever known anyone to develop lung cancer without exposure???? Happens -- but why?

Of course. Ten to twenty percent of primary lung cancers arise in non-smokers. Many of these are more indolent and treatable forms of lung cancer than the typical cancers that arise in smokers. My patient, the 26 year old woman, smoked two packs per day from age 14. One cannot reasonably argue that smoking did not contribute to her lung cancer and her early death.

I do agree with (and resemble) your remarks re: stress being the silent killer and the role of genetics. We cannot control our genes. Stress is often a result of external forces over which we have little direct control--hence, the stress.

mrearlygold

As Americans we work more & harder than any other nation.


TPN >>








No, we don't.

Tom

ibzman350

"As Americans we work more & harder than any other nation."






Herb

kieferscoins

<< <i>More enjoyment -- less stress. >>





Cameron Kiefer

Jdurg

I think the Japanese and Chinese work their butts off a bit more than we do. We're just good at complaining.

Myqqy

I think the Japanese and Chinese work their butts off a bit more than we do.

They also have problems due to stress- theirs just looks a little different than ours....
I quit smoking almost 6 years ago, and I have a strong, toxic reaction to second hand smoke now- a coin shop better have some damn good deals if I'm going to try and deal with the stench and hold my breath that long...

techeff

The great thing about second-hand smoke is... it's cheaper!