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What do you think of this 1879-S Morgan?

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    64. Where is the rainbow?image
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF-45 PQ+++++++










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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>XF-45 PQ+++++++










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  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    64, maybe 65
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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    OK,

    If it's a 64,you did good.

    Real nice 63 at worst(imo).

    If it's a 65,shame on me.

    Brian
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295


    << <i>64. Where is the rainbow?image >>



    Right here.

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  • I think I like it, but hey I likem all.

    64 + or a 65 -



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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    MS-65 on the 79 S. Here's one PCGS considered 65PL.
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    MS-65 on the 85 CC for eye appeal. Beautiful coin. image
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-64 (Shot-65).

    Stuart

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    It's not toned, throw it back...
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • I'll say 65. It's got enough frost left for me.
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  • It's funny that I see morgans on this board constantly but never get to see any diagnostics(better?) about strike....etc I see alot info on Vam stuff on here though. I know I could go read a book to find out but it would be cool to have some Posts on the subject too. Wouldn't you agree?

    I used Wam98's photo for this question. Hopefully this will help out a some of the newbies that are here including myself as for I know nothing of this series.

    The boxed in sections of this coin.....is that strike weakness? For this year, is that a typical or weaker strike?
    I see this on Frankies from time to time so I know it is strike and not rub.

    Are the boxed areas the high points of this coin?

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    PURPLE
  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    63
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's funny that I see morgans on this board constantly but never get to see any statictics(except for Vam's). >>



    Not sure what kinds of statistics you want to see. Pop reports?
    theknowitalltroll;


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    << <i>It's funny that I see morgans on this board constantly but never get to see any statictics(except for Vam's). >>



    Not sure what kinds of statistics you want to see. Pop reports? >>




    yeah ok, so statistics migh have been the wrong word.....I'll go back and change it to something else to more accurately describe exactly what I'm asking for.
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 79-S is prolly a 64. I like the 85-CC as a 65.

    The 85-CC's are some of the most beautiful CC Morgans out there. Even though their mintage is low, there are many in higher grades.
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Purple73: I think that what you are identifying in your previous post would be considered frictional breaks in the mint frost of a Morgan Dollar due to transportation while the coin was in either a canvas bag and/or a barrel/keg while it was still technically uncirculated.

    A certain amount of mint frost breaks are allowed for the coin to still qualify as mint state, since Morgan Dollars are so heavy and imparted sometimes a significant amount of frictional wear upon one another during their long journey by train or stagecoach from the U.S. mint to their destination bank.

    The 1879-S happens to be one of the most consistently well-struck and lustrous Morgan Dollars ever issued, along with the 1880-S and 1881-S issues. If a Morgan is weakly struck on the reverse you will typically see weakness in the eagles talon (claw) area and in the arrows. In pre-1900 issues you may also see poorly defined breast feathers on the eagle. The 1900-1904 and 1921 issues were struck from dies with less boldly defined breast feathers on the eagle, such that even well-struck coins may show only poorly defined breast feathers.

    A weakly struck obverse will typically show poorly defined hair over Miss Liberty's ear. I hope that this post is helpful.

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  • Holy Smokes my question got answered!


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    Thank you!
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Stuart for taking the time for that explanation. Both you and Eric are always really helpful (and knowledgeable). Eric, I see that 79S in a 5 slab.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • I'll guess high end 64 with a shot at 65 for the 79-S

    Miss Morgan seems to smiling at that rainbow in the 85-CC (I'll guess 65).
  • I feel the 79-s is a candidate for a 66, the 85cc- is a lock on a 65
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    The 79-S is in an early PCGS rattle holder as MS63.

    The 85-CC is in a blue label holder as MS64.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<"A certain amount of mint frost breaks are allowed for the coin to still qualify as mint state, since Morgan Dollars are so heavy and imparted sometimes a significant amount of frictional wear upon one another during their long journey by train or stagecoach from the U.S. mint to their destination bank.">>

    The bouncing around of bags of Morgans in the backs of wagons over rough prairie and other dirt and rock venues is often used to explain the plethora of bagmarks often found on CC Morgans. Since Morgans were minted in Carson City to be used in the western states there would be no real reason to ship O minted coins from Nawlins to the western states.
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