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This doesn't make any sense... grades... good and really bad...

The first submission is exactly what I expected on everything... the second... NOTHING was what I expected. These coins were all lock ms66's with the 84-d's all lock ms67's. Why would I be so right on the first submission and so wrong on the next? I've collected these for 2+ years, been submitting them for almost a year now, I know what I'm doing...

1 21867349 1935 1C USA MS66RD
2 21867350 1944-S 1C USA MS66RB (nicely toned)
3 21867351 1961 1C USA MS66RD
3 21867352 1961 1C USA MS66RD
3 21867353 1961 1C USA MS66RB (nicely toned)
3 21867354 1961 1C USA MS66RD
3 21867355 1961 1C USA MS65RD
3 21867356 1961 1C USA MS66RD
3 21867357 1961 1C USA MS66RD
4 21867358 1963 1C USA MS66RD
4 21867359 1963 1C USA MS65RD
4 21867360 1963 1C USA MS66RD
5 21867361 1939 5C USA PR64
6 21867362 1941-S 50C USA MS64 (well struck!)
7 21867363 1949-S 50C USA MS64
8 21867364 1951 50C USA MS64

Date Received: 01/11/2005
Date Shipped: No Date Specified

1 21867317 1971-S 1C USA MS64RD
1 21867318 1971-S 1C USA MS64RD
2 21867319 1973-D 1C USA MS65RD
2 21867320 1973-D 1C USA MS64RD
3 21867321 1974 1C USA MS66RD
3 21867322 1974 1C USA MS64RD
4 21867323 1976-D 1C USA MS64RD
4 21867324 1976-D 1C USA MS65RD
5 21867325 1978-D 1C USA MS65RD
5 21867326 1978-D 1C USA MS64RD
5 21867327 1978-D 1C USA MS64RD
6 21867328 1979-D 1C USA MS65RD
6 21867329 1979-D 1C USA MS66RD
7 21867330 1981-D 1C USA MS64RD
8 21867331 1984-D 1C USA MS66RD
8 21867332 1984-D 1C USA MS67RD
8 21867333 1984-D 1C USA MS66RD
8 21867334 1984-D 1C USA MS66RD
8 21867335 1984-D 1C USA MS66RD
8 21867336 1984-D 1C USA MS66RD
9 21867337 1995 1C USA MS67RD
9 21867338 1995 1C USA MS67RD
10 21867339 1997-D 1C USA MS67RD
11 21867340 1967 25C SMS USA MS66CA

Date Received: 01/11/2005
Date Shipped: 02/23/2005


Comments

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why would I be so right on the first submission and so wrong on the next? >>



    The first was graded before the three martini lunch, the second after.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    I've noticed similar on my submissions (a lot more so as of late)...and have a theory I've developed.

    Disclaimer, this is clearly pure conjecture image -- but there's a reason behind why I've developed this theory:

    - They get a batch

    - They look at the first coin/two in the batch

    - If the first one/two are CLEARLY a lock at a certain grade, meaning they don't have to look at it 2x, they grade it

    + If not, they spend 2-3 more seconds on it and grade it lower

    - This sets the tone for how they will look at the rest of the batch

    Meaning, when they look at the first 1-2 coins in a large submission and they are impressed, and it grades well, they will be looking at the rest of the coins through the same "rose colored" lenses. If the first 1-2 coins are "tweeners" (e.g. could grade either way), they will scrutinize the rest of the batch and every coin becomes a stretch.

    Since we don't know which coin they'll look at first, it's a crapshoot. So, the good submissions are probably the ones on which they pick up the first coin or two, and they're real nice. And the OK submissions, are the ones where the first coin or two are "tweeners".

    The reason why I've developed this theory is because -- well, honestly -- I kind of do the same thing myself. If I'm at a show, etc., and the display has some coins I want to see, and the first 1-2 I like, I'll look at the rest with "rose colored" glasses. If the first 1-2 coins I look at are not properly graded/represented, I'll play the "devil's advocate" on all the other coins I look at in the display.

    Thoughts??
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You made some nice grades there. Please don't sell any of your five 1961 66RDs until I get my one back from Newport and listed on eBay. kthzplz. image

    To your question... I dunno, maybe someone moved the dartboard back a few feet?


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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    mercurydimeguy,

    That's an interesting premise that may have some merit, but I like my three martini lunch theory better. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    You know I have been noticing some funky stuff on the slabs lately -- I hope they're washing their hands after they eat. Don't want olive or onion juice on my coins, or barbecue sauce or anything.

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