gary carter

mnolan · February 23, 2005 2:45AM

any one out there that has a 1978opc gary carter

NeilDowney · February 23, 2005 5:13AM

Hi Mike, Are you looking for a raw one or a graded one? Neil

mnolan · February 23, 2005 7:51AM

as long as it will get a 8 up it doesnt matter

mudflap02 · February 23, 2005 7:30PM

I should have one - let me poke around and maybe I'll post a scan later today.

mudflap02 · February 23, 2005 7:40PM

I have a 1978 OPC Carter, but very heavy to the left and a slight diamond cut. Edges aren't too bad, and corners are mint. I do have a 1980 OPC Carter (much harder to find) in better shape than the 78. Just let me know if you're interested and I can email you a scan.

mnolan · February 23, 2005 10:35PM

i have a 1980 opc psa 8 thank looking for 78,and 83 opc's

NeilDowney · February 24, 2005 2:46AM

Hi Mike, I have the following cards for sale.
78 Topps #135 O-Pee-Chee Regular
83 Topps #314 O-Pee-Chee All-Star
83 Topps #370 O-Pee-Chee Regular
They wouldn't be in my collection if there weren't real nice. However, I'll check for condition. What would you be willing to offer for them? Neil

mnolan · February 24, 2005 3:08AM

any scans and ill see

NeilDowney · February 25, 2005 1:29AM

Hi Mike, The 1978 OPC is nice but a bit off centered. However, both of the 1983 OPC cards are real sweet. Let me know if you are interested in any and what you would offer for them. Neil

mnolan · February 25, 2005 1:31AM

what are you looking to get for all three

NeilDowney · February 25, 2005 1:48AM

Hi Mike, I figure that if I can't make a car payment with the proceeds - then I'll have to settle for less (just joking). As you know, these OPC cards are pretty hard to get in this shape. Make me a reasonable and honest offer. Tell me what they are worth to you. Add $1-$2 for shipping and they are yours. Neil

mnolan · February 25, 2005 3:04AM

seven dollars shipped for all three

NeilDowney · February 25, 2005 4:25AM

Hi Mike, Considering how hard it is to get early OPC cards in this shape - I was hoping for $10 including shipping. How about we split the difference and agree on $8.50 delivered? Let me know, Neil

mnolan · February 26, 2005 8:25AM

no thanks neil

Buccaneer · February 26, 2005 8:28AM

Wow.

WinPitcher · February 26, 2005 10:23AM

Wow is right.

AkbarClone · February 26, 2005 10:47AM

Neil,
What years do you have OPC cards available?

I need OPC cards from quite a few years for some of my player collections.

For instance, I need OPC cards from
1970
1971
1973
1975
1988-1994

If you have availability in any of these years, please let me know and I can send you wantlists.

Thanks,
James

pandrews · February 26, 2005 11:19AM

<< no thanks neil >>

i might wouldve loaned you a 1.50.. probably not, though..

NeilDowney · February 26, 2005 12:27PM

Mike, Some of these other collectors might be surprised by my price but we both know how hard it is to get these three OPC cards in this condition. You and I both have impressive Graded Gary Carter collection but neither of us have any of these graded and in our collections. On one hand $1.50 more really means nothing to either of us. However, if you get 8s or even a 9 for one of these OPC cards - it's a one of one worth big bucks. I don't give away possible one of ones. I'll tell you what, send me $8.50 in cash. If when you see these cards, if you don't think that you can get an 8 on at least two of them - send all three of them back for a refund. I'm pretty sure that I will not be seeing these cards again. The ball is in your court now. Neil

doncherry · February 26, 2005 12:41PM

<< I'm pretty sure that I will not be seeing these cards again. The ball is in your court now. Neil >>

4SC is cracking 78 OPC and 83 OPC as we speak. It won't be long and you will have graded 9's to purchase . Good luck Mike you have did a great job so far on your Carter collection

mnolan · February 26, 2005 12:48PM

ok neil email me your address

WinPitcher · February 26, 2005 1:16PM

WOW spelled backwards is still WOW

edited typo: yup I spelled wow wrong.

NeilDowney · February 26, 2005 1:49PM

Mike, Send me an email at nbdowney@msn.com and I'll give you my mailing address. Thanks, Neil

gmoneystyles · February 26, 2005 1:58PM

wow

mnolan · February 26, 2005 11:24PM

i need these cards to finish both master and basic gary carter sets
1978 opc#135
1981 fleer star sticker
1982 fleer west meets east #635
1983 fleer base stealers threat #637
1983 stuart # 8
1985 opc all star #387
1985 topps tiffany traded #17t
1986 fleer league leaders #5
1987 fleer glossy #4
1987 fleer glossy magic mets #629
1987 fleer mini #18
1987 topps allstar #602
1988 fleer glossy #636
1988 topps #530
1988 topps big #37
1989 bowman #379
1989 bowman tiffany #379
1989 topps #3
1989 topps #680
1989 topps tiffany #680
1990 topps #790
1991 topps desert shield #310
1991 topps traded #19t
1992 opc #387

these are the cards i like to update
1984 fleer #271
1987 topps #20
1979 topps #520
thank you psa graded

NeilDowney · February 27, 2005 1:01AM

Hi Mike, I have almost every card that you need either PSA graded or in mint raw condition (see below). Let me know if you are interested in any of these and we'll see if we can work something out. Neil
1978 opc #135 - RAW
1979 topps #520 - RAW
1981 fleer star sticker - RAW
1982 fleer west meets east #635 - PSA 9 NQ
1983 fleer base stealers threat #637 - PSA 9 NQ
1983 stuart # 8 - RAW
1984 fleer #271 - PSA 9 NQ
1985 topps tiffany traded #17t - PSA 8 NQ
1986 fleer league leaders #5 - PSA 8 NQ
1987 fleer glossy #4 - PSA 9 NQ
1987 fleer glossy magic mets #629 - RAW
1987 topps #20 - PSA 9 NQ
1987 topps allstar #602 - RAW
1988 fleer glossy #636 - PSA 9 NQ
1988 topps #530 - RAW
1988 topps big #37 - PSA 9 NQ
1989 bowman #379 - RAW
1989 bowman tiffany #379 - RAW
1989 topps #3 - PSA 9 NQ
1989 topps #680 - PSA 9 NQ
1989 topps tiffany #680 - PSA 9 NQ
1990 topps #790 - RAW AND PSA 7 NQ
1991 topps traded #19t - RAW
1992 opc #387 - PSA 10 NQ

NickM · February 27, 2005 4:58AM

Remember that the Gary Carter Master Set does not include his '81 OPC card, but it has been requested for addition (I made the request).

Nick

NeilDowney · February 27, 2005 5:03AM

Mike, I also have the 1981 OPC card in mint raw condition if you want that one too. Neil

mnolan · February 27, 2005 5:58AM

what would you do for all

NeilDowney · February 27, 2005 6:11AM

Hi Mike, What would you say to $250 including shipping and insurance. I'll even throw in the three opc cards that we discussed into the deal. Let me know what you think. Neil

jackstraw · February 27, 2005 6:20AM

drumrollllllllllllllllllllllll

Buccaneer · February 27, 2005 6:32AM

Methinks he should have made the offer of $248.50 instead.

NeilDowney · February 27, 2005 12:20PM

Very funny :-)))) You guys are too much. I think that we will be doing the rest of this transaction behind door number three. Wish us luck! Neil

Coolidge · February 28, 2005 12:16AM

<< $250 including shipping and insurance >>

Neil, I hope you're also going to include a jar of vaseline.

mnolan · February 28, 2005 7:09AM

neil the cards i want are
1982 fleer #635 psa 9
1983 fleer #637 psa 9
1987 fleer glossy #4 psa 9
1988 fleer glossy #636 psa 9
1992 opc #387 psa 10
1983 opc raw
ill give 60 bucks shipped

doncherry · February 28, 2005 7:20AM

<< ill give 60 bucks shipped >>

Based on recent ebay sales of PSA graded Gary Carter's 80- up . That is a more than generous offer

NeilDowney · February 28, 2005 7:23AM

Mike, Why do you want to do this transaction on the open PSA forum? I don't want to put on a show for the laughing monkeys in the stands. If you want any of these cards, let me know through my regular email (which you have). By the way, $60 isn't going to do it. This is not a fire sale. I was just trying to help you with some hard to find cards and make a reasonable business deal. We both know what some of these are worth even if everyone else may not. Neil

doncherry · February 28, 2005 7:42AM

<< Mike, Why do you want to do this transaction on the open PSA forum? I don't want to put on a show for the laughing monkeys in the stands >>

Neil this is where you do most of your spamming so its kind of fitting

doncherry · February 28, 2005 7:48AM

<< We both know what some of these are worth even if everyone else may not. Neil >>

and ebay tells us what its worth if Mike doesn't need it

carter glossy 1988 score

mikeschmidt · February 28, 2005 7:52AM

<< 

<< We both know what some of these are worth even if everyone else may not. Neil >>

and ebay tells us what its worth if Mike doesn't need it

carter glossy 1988 score >>

Perhaps, Doncherry - but as the seller I can confidently tell you that an auction result like that means that I (and many others) will not be submitting Gary Carter cards in the future. Perhaps big submitters that pay 50% less in grading fees might be willing to take the loss on a PSA 9 that offsets the profits they make on 10s - but this just increases my pile of 'cards that I won't submit' in the future.

P.S. For what it is worth - I still made a bunch of money, as it was a 1988 Score Glossy Set Break that yielded me quite a few 10s.

NickM · February 28, 2005 8:16AM

Sorry, Mike, I would have bid on that card (and more than $0.99) if I had seen the auction.

There are always cards that get only 1 bid and therefore lose money for the seller. I just picked up a '76 Topps HOFer in PSA 9 for less than the grading fee, including amortized shipping (OK, less than I or anyone but a mega-submitter would pay as the grading fee). eBay is not a perfect market.

I have my own opinions about eBay and show prices on these cards, but Neil and mnolan are adults and don't really need our assistance in this negotiation.

Nick

Buccaneer · February 28, 2005 10:55AM

Is there a laughing monkey avatar I could use?

pandrews · February 28, 2005 11:08AM

<< carter glossy 1988 score >>

wow, i also wouldve thrown a bid on it if i'd seen it..

NeilDowney · February 28, 2005 1:08PM

Guys, We all know that when it comes to cards from a player set - ebay is not the final answer. There are raw cards that book for 5 cent and go for $50 or more because it is a 1 of 1. Part of the game of a player set is having to find many graded cards that you would not have graded for yourself. However, you still need them to complete the basic or even the master set. Some of the greatest player sets of all time still have dogs that most would not graded if they weren't in the registry listing. These are the cards that get the most money graded verus their raw prices because who's crazy enough the grade them for any other purpose. Just like most of the player set collectors, other collecters will not think that some graded Gary Carter cards have value like Gary Carter collectors do. How many times have we all heard the phrase "why pay all that money just for a piece of cardboard". The same thing can be said for a piece of cardboard slabbed in a plastic holder. It's still a piece of cardboard, yet here we all are still wanting more of them. We should remember that before we try to place a value on someone else's collectables or interests. I'll get off my soapbox now. Neil

jackstraw · February 28, 2005 9:17PM

this might be an entire seperate thread? why if you collect gary carter or whoever can you not register more than one of a single card? shouldn't they(PSA) have a heading on the registry "gary carter". click on gary carter and you get everyone collecting carter! not basic or master or topps just carter? it would save psa alot of time and research? for example i will use nolan ryan. if i was to have all 12 78 topps 9 i should be able to list them in my ryan set?as i add cards they will be in chronological order? click on my sgc and thats how it should be? not collectors showcase not master and basic?if they want to keep the cards i don't have listed for completion purposes thats fine but there is really no completion when it comes to a player collection? don't forget psa will only put a card in the sets that they have graded?

NeilDowney · March 1, 2005 2:51AM

Mike, If you want the 5 graded cards plus the 2 raw 1983 OPC cards, I will need $80 including shipping and insurance. Check the pop report. There is a 1 of 1, 1 of 2, 1 of 3 and a 1 of 4 in that lot of 5 cards. If this price is not good for you, let me know and I'll offer them to someone else. Neil

WinPitcher · March 1, 2005 10:38PM

There are raw cards that book for 5 cent and go for $50 or more because it is a 1 of 1

huh?

doncherry · March 27, 2005 4:50AM

<< Mike, Why do you want to do this transaction on the open PSA forum? I don't want to put on a show for the laughing monkeys in the stands. If you want any of these cards, let me know through my regular email (which you have). By the way, $60 isn't going to do it. This is not a fire sale. I was just trying to help you with some hard to find cards and make a reasonable business deal. We both know what some of these are worth even if everyone else may not. Neil >>

Looks like this deal got settled on ebay. The five cards that Mike wanted (and offered $60) he bought 4 via buy it now for $46 from Neil on ebay , the fifth card he wanted did not sell at $10 and was relisted.

koby · March 27, 2005 6:29AM

Thanks Neil and Mike. That was a very interesting exchange.

LordThanos1969 · March 27, 2005 4:35PM

So it was a "fire sale" after all.

gary carter

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