That's just simply ludicrous. Even if it's a Pop 1...who the heck cares? $10,000!!!! With that kinda dough you can get some truly scarce/rare coins out there. How about some proof 1800's gold? Okay, how about one of the better SVDB's known out there. Heck....anything, other than a coin that's a hair's breadth away from being worth only a few hundred dollars and only 30+ years old.
I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains."
<< <i>That's just simply ludicrous. Even if it's a Pop 1...who the heck cares? $10,000!!!! With that kinda dough you can get some truly scarce/rare coins out there. How about some proof 1800's gold? Okay, how about one of the better SVDB's known out there. Heck....anything, other than a coin that's a hair's breadth away from being worth only a few hundred dollars and only 30+ years old.
I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains." >>
For $10,000 you can get an '09-S VDB or proof gold but apparently it's not quite enough to get a gem 1972 tI Ike dollar. If one collects gem Ikes then it would follow that the cent or gold will not fit into his collection. By saying that anyone buying such a coin is stupid, you essentially are saying that gem Ikes are modern crap that aren't worthy of being collected.
It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de- termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804 dollars.
Yep, you got that right...modern crap going for real money.
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<< <i>That's just simply ludicrous. Even if it's a Pop 1...who the heck cares? $10,000!!!! With that kinda dough you can get some truly scarce/rare coins out there. How about some proof 1800's gold? Okay, how about one of the better SVDB's known out there. Heck....anything, other than a coin that's a hair's breadth away from being worth only a few hundred dollars and only 30+ years old.
I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains." >>
For $10,000 you can get an '09-S VDB or proof gold but apparently it's not quite enough to get a gem 1972 tI Ike dollar. If one collects gem Ikes then it would follow that the cent or gold will not fit into his collection. By saying that anyone buying such a coin is stupid, you essentially are saying that gem Ikes are modern crap that aren't worthy of being collected.
It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de- termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804 dollars. >>
Frankly, I think that if anyone believes a jump in one grade point is worth over $10,000 then they have waaaaaaaaaaay too much time on their hands. At that level, can you really see a huge difference in the coin without the help of special lighting or magnification? What if the person grading it was just being easy that day? Yes on this particular example the MS65 has one or two more nicks on the face, but to think that those 'nicks' are worth $10,000 is a bit of a stretch. This is one case where I think the fact that the coin is graded has artificially ballooned its worth.
I collect the elements on the periodic table, and some coins. I have a complete Roosevelt set, and am putting together a set of coins from 1880.
It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de- termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804 dollars. >>
True. It should be a matter of rarity. There are hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of the more common ancient coins. There are fewer than twenty 1804 silver dollars. It is both old and rare.
Conversely, there were 75,890,000 1972-P Ikes made. And another 95 million -D and proof '72 Ikes made. How many type II? Who knows. 100,000? Half a million? 5 million?
A 1972 Ike dollar is neither old nor rare. Nor is it historically important or even interesting.
It comes down to the brilliance of marketing registry sets. Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture.
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
<< <i>Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture. >>
Or, maybe it's somebody who has worked his ass off, become very successful, is having fun with the fruits of his labor and doesn't give a rat's ass about the opinions of the jealous who couldn't afford to drop 10 grand on any coin.
To each his own....anyways I agree...with: be it a dollar or penny, one mans money is his own to do with as he sees,as people sit and slam a guy just because he likes IKe...maybe hes doing it for the Registry and Gulp I agree with RUSS.
putting together a MS 60 and up Morgan set....60% complete...otlher 40% probably take the rest of the decade!
Russ, you obviously make a great deal of money feeding the registry set phenomenon. I don't doubt that it takes a great deal of expertise and hard work. But neither that nor being hostile at someone who points out the plain truth makes these coins any more rare than they are.
We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last. --Severian the Lame
The finest coin I personally graded last year was a clad Ike. One of a small group of MS67's ever graded by PCGS and every bit deserving of the grade. I thought it may have been the first MS68 for the series and it still may be some day. It was a 1973 D and was truly a one-in-a-million specimen. The strike, luster, & condition defied belief. It was the only coin that was virtually mesmerizing to me. It sold for $5000.00 and was worth every penny. I'm sure the current owner is very happy with it in their collection. Over 25,000 MS clad Ikes have been graded by PCGS and only 82 have received MS67 with none higher (that's 3/10's of one percent of the finest cherry-picked coins). Most Ike rolls and mint sets have been thoroughly searched over the last 10-15 years and there isn't much fresh material left to search. The few new coins hitting the market cannot keep pace with the demand for this series. This series is going nowhere but up. Enjoy:
True. It should be a matter of rarity. There are hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of the more common ancient coins. There are fewer than twenty 1804 silver dollars. It is both old and rare.
Conversely, there were 75,890,000 1972-P Ikes made. And another 95 million -D and proof '72 Ikes made. How many type II? Who knows. 100,000? Half a million? 5 million?
A 1972 Ike dollar is neither old nor rare. Nor is it historically important or even interesting.
It comes down to the brilliance of marketing registry sets. Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture. >>
You might do well to delve into WW II. There was an historical figure by the name of Eisenhower. While some may believe his contribution to the war is overrated, there is no doubt that he commanded the entire European theater and then went on to serve two terms as the president of the greatest country in the world which is the country which issued this coin upon his death. The reverse of this coin is the emblem for first moon landing mission which some people do consider historic. The open forum has a rather lenghty thread for those few who don't believe this mission actually occured.
Yes, there were tens of millions of the early Ikes struck and for the main part they were destroyed in circulation because real collectors couldn't be bothered with mod- ern crap that didn't even contain silver! At the time they were too absorbed bidding up the price of silver art bars to pay any attention to anything that wasn't really a coin. Today most of these art bars sell for "face value" and no one wants them. Some of the Ikes sell at huge premiums. You do the math.
So long as there are more than one or two people who collect US coins this should be an expensive coin.
Collect what you like and like what you collect. If that is what it cost a collector to buy what he wanted- then more power to him. I can only assume that he has enough money to buy what he likes also. Good for him. I would not spend 10+K on that coin, but I also eat left overs that I didn't really enjoy the first time around (God Oh God--- Please don't let my wife read that)
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I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains."
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If those are worth that much, might have a alot of new coins being sent in for certificiation.
<< <i>That's just simply ludicrous. Even if it's a Pop 1...who the heck cares? $10,000!!!! With that kinda dough you can get some truly scarce/rare coins out there. How about some proof 1800's gold? Okay, how about one of the better SVDB's known out there. Heck....anything, other than a coin that's a hair's breadth away from being worth only a few hundred dollars and only 30+ years old.
I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains." >>
For $10,000 you can get an '09-S VDB or proof gold but apparently it's not quite
enough to get a gem 1972 tI Ike dollar. If one collects gem Ikes then it would
follow that the cent or gold will not fit into his collection. By saying that anyone
buying such a coin is stupid, you essentially are saying that gem Ikes are modern
crap that aren't worthy of being collected.
It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de-
termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804
dollars.
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<< <i>That's just simply ludicrous. Even if it's a Pop 1...who the heck cares? $10,000!!!! With that kinda dough you can get some truly scarce/rare coins out there. How about some proof 1800's gold? Okay, how about one of the better SVDB's known out there. Heck....anything, other than a coin that's a hair's breadth away from being worth only a few hundred dollars and only 30+ years old.
I think someone else in this forum stated the same before: "Some people have more money than brains." >>
For $10,000 you can get an '09-S VDB or proof gold but apparently it's not quite
enough to get a gem 1972 tI Ike dollar. If one collects gem Ikes then it would
follow that the cent or gold will not fit into his collection. By saying that anyone
buying such a coin is stupid, you essentially are saying that gem Ikes are modern
crap that aren't worthy of being collected.
It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de-
termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804
dollars. >>
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Could this be an "artificial" price mark for some sort of offering of similar items and now there is a printed price realized as a point of reference?
Someone could have bought the coin at that level, or someone could be trying to manipulate a price.
I have a hard time buying blue pack Ikes for $4, never mind those prices realized.
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<< <i> "Some people have more money than brains." >>
Some people have the money and the brains to collect what they want to collect. What in the world is wrong about that?
<< <i>Did the coin definitely sell at that level? >>
Most likely. Normally on Teletrade if the seller does a buyback, it appears as "not sold".
Russ, NCNE
Darn! It's already taken by another smart guy!
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<< <i> "Some people have more money than brains." >>
Some people have the money and the brains to collect what they want to collect. What in the world is wrong about that?
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It should also be remembered that age of a coin does not now and never did de-
termine it's value. If it did then ancient coins would be worth far more than 1804
dollars. >>
True. It should be a matter of rarity. There are hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of the more common ancient coins. There are fewer than twenty 1804 silver dollars. It is both old and rare.
Conversely, there were 75,890,000 1972-P Ikes made. And another 95 million -D and proof '72 Ikes made. How many type II? Who knows. 100,000? Half a million? 5 million?
A 1972 Ike dollar is neither old nor rare. Nor is it historically important or even interesting.
It comes down to the brilliance of marketing registry sets. Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture.
--Severian the Lame
<< <i>Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture. >>
Or, maybe it's somebody who has worked his ass off, become very successful, is having fun with the fruits of his labor and doesn't give a rat's ass about the opinions of the jealous who couldn't afford to drop 10 grand on any coin.
Russ, NCNE
--Severian the Lame
<< <i>Russ, you obviously make a great deal of money feeding the registry set phenomenon. >>
Uh, yeah, okay.
<< <i>But neither that nor being hostile at someone >>
Hostile? You mean like this?
<< <i>Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". >>
Could you possibly be any more hypocritical? Or more obviously jealous?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>If a type I sells for over 10k in a 66 holder, what would a type II (the rarest of the 72 varieties) sell for in 66? >>
Apparently, there is a forum member who has a standing offer out at $13,000 for one.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>I'll pay $14,000 for one. Where is it???? >>
That better not cut in to my welfare check.
Russ, NCNE
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True. It should be a matter of rarity. There are hundreds, thousands, and even tens of thousands of the more common ancient coins. There are fewer than twenty 1804 silver dollars. It is both old and rare.
Conversely, there were 75,890,000 1972-P Ikes made. And another 95 million -D and proof '72 Ikes made. How many type II? Who knows. 100,000? Half a million? 5 million?
A 1972 Ike dollar is neither old nor rare. Nor is it historically important or even interesting.
It comes down to the brilliance of marketing registry sets. Someone with a small crank and more money than brains thinks he IS someone today because he has a "conditional rarity". He's also butt nekkid, and thinks he's wearing the haute couture. >>
You might do well to delve into WW II. There was an historical figure by the name
of Eisenhower. While some may believe his contribution to the war is overrated,
there is no doubt that he commanded the entire European theater and then went
on to serve two terms as the president of the greatest country in the world which
is the country which issued this coin upon his death. The reverse of this coin is the
emblem for first moon landing mission which some people do consider historic. The
open forum has a rather lenghty thread for those few who don't believe this mission
actually occured.
Yes, there were tens of millions of the early Ikes struck and for the main part they
were destroyed in circulation because real collectors couldn't be bothered with mod-
ern crap that didn't even contain silver! At the time they were too absorbed bidding
up the price of silver art bars to pay any attention to anything that wasn't really a coin.
Today most of these art bars sell for "face value" and no one wants them. Some of
the Ikes sell at huge premiums. You do the math.
So long as there are more than one or two people who collect US coins this should
be an expensive coin.
Keep up the good research/observation work..
----Lloyd
<< <i>but I also eat left overs that I didn't really enjoy the first time around >>
Leftovers always taste better. There's some flavor enhancing chemical reaction that occurs in the reheating process.
Russ, NCNE