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Why PCGS should net grade

Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
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LINK to raw $80,000 coin
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,245 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "This smartly struck example which has excellent hair definition has, unfortunately, been lightly cleaned long ago, and probably won't grade at a major service (although we've seen many common date bust dollars with greater problems in PCGS or NGC holders). "

    What is ANACS to these people, a potted plant? The "big three" TPG services, in alphabetical order, are:
    1. ANACS
    2. NGC
    3. PCGS

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  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382 ✭
    This raises my eyebrows. With a coin this expensive why wouldn't they get it in an ANACS slab? I'll just ask the question... any wild chance it's a fake? image
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>"This smartly struck example which has excellent hair definition has, unfortunately, been lightly cleaned long ago, and probably won't grade at a major service (although we've seen many common date bust dollars with greater problems in PCGS or NGC holders). "

    What is ANACS to these people, a potted plant? The "big three" TPG services, in alphabetical order, are:
    1. ANACS
    2. NGC
    3. PCGS >>


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    This is Superior Galleries. What are they smoking?image I wonder if this one is in Cardinal's 1794 dollar book.
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    If the coin is rare enough, PCGS will grade it regardless of the problem.





    << <i>With a coin this expensive why wouldn't they get it in an ANACS slab? >>



    How would that enhance the value? It's about the coin, not the plastic.
  • sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    What would it be worth at a grade of 40 if it were not cleaned?

    How long would you have to carry it as a pocket piece to get it in a PCGS slab?
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  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382 ✭


    << <i>If the coin is rare enough, PCGS will grade it regardless of the problem.





    << <i>With a coin this expensive why wouldn't they get it in an ANACS slab? >>



    How would that enhance the value? It's about the coin, not the plastic. >>



    Because of the guaranty of authenticity backed with $$$$$'s
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>If the coin is rare enough, PCGS will grade it regardless of the problem. >>


    Really? You know this for a fact? David Hall told you so?



    << <i>How would that enhance the value? It's about the coin, not the plastic. >>


    Yes, it's about the coin, we all know that. So, you have no fear buying a $80K raw coin, even if you believe it's authentic? The reason to buy a slabbed expensive coin is at least you have a "guarantee" authenticity by the major TPG services. If you buy a raw expensive coin without guarantee, and it turns out to be fake, you are screwed. JMHO.
  • cointagiouscointagious Posts: 847 ✭


    << <i><< If the coin is rare enough, PCGS will grade it regardless of the problem. >>


    Really? You know this for a fact? David Hall told you so? >>






    Please, come join us in the real world. PCGS will often net grade a problem rare date without notation if the 'right 'person submits it. Even NGC is easing a bit on their stance from slabbing better date problem coins.
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That hair looks awfully well defined. Is it possible it has been tooled, and that is the reason it's not in an anacs slab?
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i><< If the coin is rare enough, PCGS will grade it regardless of the problem. >>


    Really? You know this for a fact? David Hall told you so? >>






    Please, come join us in the real world. PCGS will often net grade a problem rare date without notation if the 'right 'person submits it. Even NGC is easing a bit on their stance from slabbing better date problem coins. >>


    Please, don't patronize me, like I didn't know that already. But, let me clarify for you, regardless?
  • cointagiouscointagious Posts: 847 ✭


    << <i>try this B&M catalog description on for size...lot 1042 paul mory collection sale on 6/2000...'vg-8(pcgs) but cleaned, burnished, re-engraved at portions of the design, and lightly pitted in areas. Overall sharpness is vf-20 or so'... >>




    How much more regardless would you like?
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    Dude, you fail to see my point. I'm gonna just leave it at that.
  • mrfredmrfred Posts: 718

    <<PCGS will often net grade a problem rare date without notation if the 'right 'person submits it. >>

    Who are the 'right' people? image

    I agree with the earlier posts. This coin should have gone to ANACS for grading. Very reputable, especially in situations like this.
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  • cointagiouscointagious Posts: 847 ✭


    << <i>Who are the 'right' people? >>



    Not you or me but smoebody is getting those coins into holders.











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  • UncleWigglyUncleWiggly Posts: 2,467
    ANACS would be my first choice. But, what about NCS?



    Jerry

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