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Does anyone dislike the registry sets like me?

I for one, do not like the registry set concept. Grading is so subjective that it does not make sense to me that a pure formula type approach is the best way to compare one set against another. I am sure there are sets that are listed as "#2" or even a lowly "#3" that have a far better "look" than the "#1" registry set. I do not collect registry type material, and although I am impressed by the coins that are in the registry, I personally would not post my coins in a registry if I collected at that level. For me, splitting hairs to get to a #1 ranking just does not make sense seeing that there is not much difference between a 67 and a 68, and some attractively struck lesser graded pieces are nicer in my opinion. What do you think?
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Da Registry Rocks!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • Registry set = Big Wallet !

    I have one across the street and may have one here someday,but it sure wont have anything to do with the size o my bankroll !

    Smart buying will get it done,wont be number 1,but the top ten for me is do-able !
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Registry is OK with me so long as I don't get caught up in it.


  • << <i>I enjoy the registry and trust me you can tell the difference b/w a 67 and a 68. >>






    But can you tell the difference between a 66 and a 67?


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  • As Lucy looks at my bloody body on the sidewalk !
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭


    << <i>As Lucy looks at my bloody body on the sidewalk ! >>



    You will heal daddy-o, you will heal.....

    Of course we still have two more coins in, so you might bleed alittle more first....
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • MercMerc Posts: 1,646 ✭✭
    I don't dislike the registry sets, but am indifferent to them. I could place my coins into some, but I don't feel the need to do so. I know what I have and don't have. There is no need to place them into an on-line computer data bank.
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  • Dammit Lucy !

    dont remind me !
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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Part of it for me is a show and tell. It's like getting together with your coin buddy friends with your collection. It's neat to show and compare, to see and to learn, and interact with people who love and admire what you love and admire. I've met lots of neat people and have made lots of new friends through the Registry activity. It theoretically can be cut-throat and competitive, but among the series I've collected, the atmosphere has been encouraging, collegial and supportive.

    You don't have to be rich. Lots of people just put their handful of pride-and-joys up there with pictures, and interact with the others about what they have and what they see. It's a great way, too, to get communications from people who have items you might be interested in.

    It's not for everyone, but it's another collectors' venue, and another way to have fun with the hobby.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it and I am not even going to think about being number one. But the twenty or so sets that I have are a fun way of organizing my collecting interests.
    And yes they are mostly moderns but that's what I like. And it is fun saying you have the number three date set of Washington quarters even though they will never be able to match Craig's.
    And for you that think the registry is only for the wealthy this old dog still works over forty hour a week in a production plant.
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  • Registry sets are kinda like measuring penises !
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Registry sets are kinda like measuring penises ! >>



    and in my case?
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
    "Senorita HepKitty"
    "I want a real cool Kitty from Hepcat City, to stay in step with me" - Bill Carter
  • MillertimeMillertime Posts: 2,048 ✭✭
    I have 3 registry sets, Kennedy Proof, Eisenhower Circulation, and State Quarter Circulation. My goal with all three sets is a 100% complete and as inexpensive as possible. I pick them up on eBay when I see low prices: less than $5 on the quarters, $10 on the Kennedys, and $15 on the Ikes.

    The whole registry set concept is neat but trying for a top spot seems all but impossible.

    Millertime
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<Part of it for me is a show and tell. It's like getting together with your coin buddy friends with your collection. It's neat to show and compare, to see and to learn, and interact with people who love and admire what you love and admire.>>

    If you participate in any registry with this in mind thay can be a very fun part of the hobby. I know that I'll never crack the top three in any of the registry sets I've got; but I still enjoy it. Too each his/her own.

    Chris
    My Lincoln Registry
    My Collection of Old Holders

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    No one is forcing you to participate. Collect what you like, and if you find the Registry a waste of time, don't worry about it.
  • Lucy,

    Bra sizes ?

    Im a 44 A or a 44 trainer !
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  • I like it.

    As others have said, it's a nice way to meet folks with similar collecting interests.

    If you include photos of your coins, it's a convenient way to share your collection
    with friends & family.

    Somebody said once that it's kind of like a modern, digital version of the old
    blue Whitman folders that so many of us started with. I agree.

    You don't have to be #1 to have fun - for whatever reason, it is a bit of a thrill
    to list your latest purchase, click, and watch your completion percentage and
    set grade go up! If you happen to pass someone, it's even more fun! image

    Ken
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    I don't care for it, but I do NOT dislike it.
  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    Just another way to enjoy collecting - making it competetive.

    One can choose not to participate.
    Wondo

  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭
    I think a lot more great sets have been put on display at coin shows because of the Registry. I've got to see many coins that way that I wouldn't have seen otherwise.
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  • ms71ms71 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Competitive collecting has no appeal for me, but it is one of the great marketing concepts you'll ever see by PCGS and NGC.
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  • I use the registry for one purpose a reference tool to manage the different series that I have. I dont desire to be number 1, if it happens it happens if not oh well I'm still happy. Its there its free so I use it. JMHO
    Stacy

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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Actually I am about to put a registry set together when done will consist of over 180 gold coins. We're pretty close to that now. I have no idea how it will come out but it will be the finest overall set that large in the series with a set within the set being complete and ranking way up there. Many finest knowns and top 5, many famous pedigrees, and this entire set will also bear a new pedigree which is neat as heck to me.

    Stay tuned as it will start to appear within 2 weeks.

    Tomimage
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭
    I like the registry. I do not have exceptionally deep pockets, and will not be a contender for #1 in any contested sets. However, after years of collecting I have many respectable sets.... mostly type sets, but also some specialty like 1965-67 SMS sets, MS Ikes and the 1959 proof set.

    You can tell from most of my coins I do not spend thousands for the highest graded.... even sold a MS67 Clad Ike I made, and put his brother who looked as good but graded 66 into my set.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Longacre, gutsy post!

    I am neutral toward registry sets. If they existed for what I collect, I would still have mixed feelings. On one hand, it would be nice to have my set in the registry, but on the other, I have heard/seen prices in higher grade coins driven up as a result.

    I like the web interface of the PCGS, but I like the rules of the NGC, allowing both PCGS and NGC coins to enter.


  • << <i>I for one, do not like the registry set concept. Grading is so subjective that it does not make sense to me that a pure formula type approach is the best way to compare one set against another. I am sure there are sets that are listed as "#2" or even a lowly "#3" that have a far better "look" than the "#1" registry set. What do you think? >>



    I agree with you.

    I'm sure many of us can post for example, a 63 that is more appealing, attractive and valuable than a 64 of a particular coin or type, and that is this problem that renders the whole registry concept just about meaningless in my opinion.

    Or, put another way, the REAL specialists in any area of numismatics are more knowledgeable and experienced in their respective specialties than the generalist graders at PCGS (or NGC) can possibly be.

    So in a real world example, whose opinion of Trade Dollars would you value more, respect more and trust more - TDN's, who has seen, studied, collected, and drooled over more Trades than probably anyone, or a grader at PCGS who sees one Trade Dollar out of every 16,000 coins submitted?
  • Im with RYK about it being a gutsy post..i can sure tell a difference between a nice 68 and a nice coin of lessor grade..just this next week i will be selling 8 registry sets and i will be starting over in a couple of new for me series..im really looking forward to starting over again and learning about new areas that im kind of weak in..that all said i have a few really nice coins for the grade that are relatively inexpensive at the 63 thru 66 level that dont cut it for a top quality registry set..but i really like the look of em and im holdin em..
    bruce scher
  • Bruce,

    What are you going to work on next ?

    Proof
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The fixation on being number one that many people think the Registry concept is all about is almost laughable. Certainly people, whether a registry participant or a collector that refrains from the registry, enjoy finding and purchasing nice coins. I do not see people here calling Joe's coin a dog if it is MS64 but if you take Joe's coin and say its going into a registry the coin has a 50/50 chance of someone saying a MS63 just might be better. Are the two types of collectors that different. In a nutshell heck no. Both like nice coins but choose to inventory, display or share with others in a different way.

    Dislike the Registry if you like and the real advantages of belonging you will probably miss. Where and how could you meet and converse with people that have the exact same passion as yourself if it were not for the Registry and Registry Forum ? Heck I guess maybe you could jump in your car, drive the whole country with a sign saying I collect Merc Dimes, and probably meet a couple of people with the same passion. It works better here. To date people have been met, via the internet, in California, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, Texas, Illinois, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maryland, North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. Man thats a bunch of driving from Oregon with that sign.

    Being #1 or the Best just is not it.

    Ken
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the registry sets. I am not too concerned with being #1, but rather just having my set visible for others to enjoy. The best part is that holdering the coin in PCGS slabs serves a dual purpose. It allows the coins to be shared via the registry set, and it puts them in the most marketable medium of a PCGS holder.

    Tyler
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Registry set = Big Wallet ! >>



    Not necessarily. My wallet is about as thick as a pube, and I have a pretty nice set. It's not #1, but it's up there a ways.

    Russ, NCNE
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dislike the Registry if you like and the real advantages of belonging you will probably miss. Where and how could you meet and converse with people that have the exact same passion as yourself if it were not for the Registry and Registry Forum ?

    Participating in this forum is a great way to meet collectors with whom one has a common interest. I have similarly met and made friends with collectors in New Jersey, Connecticut, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Texas, California, Washington, Ohio, Michigan, Missouri, Illinois, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, etc. and am not an active Registry participant. It's the internet that is facilitating these connections, and forums like this one, not necessarily the Registry.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Registry sets, I don't "dislike" them per se, just am indifferent. I don't collect pop top coins, just "nice enough" examples, so don't have to "compete" for plastic and tags (although I DO have a few condition census coins, they are just as often holdered as not, and none are "registery-ed")

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  • Russ is spoutin Crap !

    1 of his coins is worth more than my NGC registry set !

    Course he did bust azz to get there !
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1 of his coins is worth more than my NGC registry set ! >>



    That pretty much proves the point that one does not necessarily have to have a lot of money to participate in the registry. I certainly don't! There are many, many sets to choose from that can be built with sweat equity rather than boatloads of cash.

    Russ, NCNE
  • F117ASRF117ASR Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭
    I like the registry. It tells me the pops without having to be a PCGS member. From those pops
    it lets me see what Kennedys are hardest to find in high grades. I aim for those first. Hehe.
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  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    What Russ said ... some careful purchases and cherry picking and one can have some darn nice Registry sets in some series without spending a ton!
  • I like the Registry and registry sets. I value complete sets. I don't care so much to be in 1'st place. Sure it would be nice but I'd rather pick an eye appealing coin that costs me a point, I really don't need to be first.
  • My point was,Russ's wallet is a wee bit thicker than mine but he aint no dummy !

    My 57 set across the street cost me 907.00,sure they are all NGC coins,but the PCGS price guide is 5300.00 ?

    The PCGS stuff cant be 5 times nicer !

    Proof
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