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My lame post regarding a rella coin - shread this!!!

CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
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I have been convinced by MANOFCOINS and several others that this was a stupid post. I now concur and apologize to anyone who read it. I send a special, sincere apology to rellaa.

Mike
Coppernicus

Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!

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  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207 ✭
    I think it is pretty lame to call out that auction just because you think it is not upgradeable. Sorry, but GEEEZ.
  • CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
    TUMUSS - You're kinda' right, but I only called it out 'cause the description suggested the possibility of an upgrade. No way, IMHO.

    Plus, I apologized in my post because I realized I was probably being over-critical....

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207 ✭


    << <i>TUMUSS - You're kinda' right, but I only called it out 'cause the description suggested the possibility of an upgrade. No way, IMHO. >>




    NO...I'm not kidding. Are You? It seems your post is an attempt to embarrass or censor the opinion of someone who is selling a PCGS coin.



    << <i>Plus, I apologized in my post because I realized I was probably being over-critical.... >>



    Then why even post it?
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I would have to agree with TUMUSS- just because you don't agree with that grading opinion, doesn't mean that you should call out that particular seller or auction....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
    Whoa guys!! Read my post! I pointed out that "from what I can tell from the pics" - i.e. I don't have the coin in hand but from what I see, there's no way it's an upgrade to a 66 at PCGS. I've gone through hundreds of "rattlers", NGC's, PCI's, ANACS, SEGS, NTC'S, etc., etc., in the Lincoln wheats and have a pretty decent crackout record at PCGS when I decide a coin has a chance.

    This one in question does not have a good chance. That's all I'm saying!

    Mike

    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>he is simply stating the coin is a very high end 65 and if luckey it could go 66 >>

    Nailed it right on the head there!



    << <i>I THINK YOU SHOLD HAVE SENT A PM instead of coming on here and making someone look and feel bad. >>

    Nah, this is perfectly alright by me...two bids on the coin since this thread started. Free marketing! image



    << <i>Without having the coin in hand how do you know he is wrong? >>

    Or...how do you you know that it isn't just a case of my photography skills blowing? image


    Disclosure: I bought this in a multi-coin lot and graded it MS65RD PQ++ (shot upgrade), but when it came down to cracking it out this coin didn't make the cut, pure and simple. I paid $70 for it, which I THINK is strong money for the date/grade. The flyspecks on the obverse are far less visible in hand and the reverse weakness is not nearly as bad as the picture would indicate. Still...it isn't like I used a phrase like "An MS66RD in an MS65RD holder".

    Disclosure, part 2: I've cracked and upgrade worse Lincolns (stupid but lucky) in the past and been in the position of wholesaling them out at deep discounts because they weren't up to the quality I try to maintain for MS66RD Lincolns I sell. So, yeah, it would make for a rather low quality 66 but I see worse coins in 66 holders all the time.

    Any other questions or flames?

    RELLA

    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coppernicus,

    I would have to agree with the others.....the post should have been sent as a PM.
    There are a lot of coins that "could upgraded on the RIGHT day". It's marketing.

    Sounds like you don't know Roger (Rellaa) very well and maybe you should before the backhanded attack (yes, that is what your post seems like and perception is reality).
    While I'll agree with you that the obverse spots may hinder it, remember, it is a blown up pic. May not look as "bad" in hand. The coin is nice though. I've seen worse in MS66.
    A lot would depend on the grader at the time and how they felt.

    So, to call that out, be in "attack" mode because it "bugged" you a bit, then to apologize for your "rant" but leave it all in there......sorry dude. That is a bit lame.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
    I've sent rella a PM in which I apologize for my comments and explain my thoughts on the coin.

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    I kinda liked the thread better before the edit...now there's no link to my auction anymore. image

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
    Link restored (again!):

    Controversial? You Judge!

    Mike
    Coppernicus

    Lincoln Wheats (1909 - 1958) Basic Set - Always Interested in Upgrading!
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Your link is broken. image

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • NgokLiNgokLi Posts: 156
    I just wonder how people can grade a coin by just looking at the picture without looking at the real coin.
    Below is 3 1935/34S Boone half They are PCGS graded 64, 65, 66. Can you tell me which one is 64,
    which one is 65, and which is 66?

    image
  • TUMUSSTUMUSS Posts: 2,207 ✭
    just for the fun of it.... 66/64/65
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say 65/66/64 image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    66 65 64

    not trying to be different...really my best guess.

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • NgokLiNgokLi Posts: 156
    The answer is:
    image

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  • USAROKUSAROK Posts: 887 ✭✭✭
    NgokLi - I didn't read this thread before you posted your answer, but I did get the grades right before seeing the answer. Since I work in Seoul, Korea and the only way I get to see the coins I want to buy is via photos or scans, I'm getting better at grading from them. Still difficult though - especially when the pics are the size of those you posted. Of course being a collector of early commemoratives helped on your challenge. Still all of the opinions given were based solely on images of the obverse and could have been way off if the reverses were not as nice. By the way, I've admired your registry set for some time now. Well done!

    P.S. Please turn on your PM function. I would have sent a PM instead of posting here.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey!
    I was right on the grades!

    What do I win??? image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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