Pricing Help on French 1 FRANC and 50 Centimes

PuddlePirate

Okay gang all I have is a 2004 Krause and I just hit a question.

I have several (7) KM 894.1 1947 50 centimes in vf-bu condition. Is the price listed even close to real?

I am putting together my auctions for FleaBay next week (if all goes well) and was setting up a WWII
war years grouping in KM# 885a.1 French 1 FRANC. These are all aluminum pieces and are quite common or so I thought. What is up with the 1943's? Krause lists a mintage of only 4,400 pcs is that right? And the pricing?
I have about thirty pcs of the 1943's going from VF to BU - please tell me the pricing is wrong... Krause lists them starting at $1,200 F, up to $4,000 in Unc. I would appreciate it if Anyone who can shed some light on this. I really can't believe the coin fairy just boinked me when I wasn't looking.

Thanks

Douglas

sumnom

how can you tell the difference between the 1947 894.1 and 1947 894.1a?

As for the one franc, my Krause says the same as yours. This is interesting!

oldshep

In Krause, some of the mintage numbers are written in the European style using a period rather than a comma in the number which, I have been told, indicates the number is in the millions instead of thousands. The 1943 1 Franc is common.
Shep

sumnom

But what about the price?

sumnom

My Krause says "4,400" with a comma, not a period.

We are talking about 885a.1, not 902.1, right?

lreneadler

Take a GOOD look a this link:

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tbirde56

The thing is that there are two types of Francs for 1943, the scarce one with the head design and the common one with the axe design.

The 50c KM-894.1 is aluminum bronze while the KM-894.1a is aluminum.

sumnom

ttt

Philip

<< <i>Okay gang all I have is a 2004 Krause and I just hit a question.

I have several (7) KM 894.1 1947 50 centimes in vf-bu condition. Is the price listed even close to real?

I am putting together my auctions for FleaBay next week (if all goes well) and was setting up a WWII
war years grouping in KM# 885a.1 French 1 FRANC. These are all aluminum pieces and are quite common or so I thought. What is up with the 1943's? Krause lists a mintage of only 4,400 pcs is that right? And the pricing?
I have about thirty pcs of the 1943's going from VF to BU - please tell me the pricing is wrong... Krause lists them starting at $1,200 F, up to $4,000 in Unc. I would appreciate it if Anyone who can shed some light on this. I really can't believe the coin fairy just boinked me when I wasn't looking.

Thanks

Douglas >>



The 50 Centimes were struck in aluminum-bronze before WWII and in aluminum during the war. The only exception to this is the 1947 date, which comes in both versions. The expensive one is the aluminum-bronze, KM894.1 whereas the common one is the aluminum, KM894.1a and it starts at $0.15 in Fine.

As far as the 1 Franc goes, the aluminum-bronze type of the 1930s was struck in aluminum during the war and indeed the 1943 date without mintmark (KM885a.1) is rare with 4 400 pcs struck. However, the Vichy government struck aluminum 1 Franc coins with an axe and those are listed under KM902. There the 1943 date is quite common and starts at $0.10 (both thick and thin flan )

I think this goes to show that the new Krause format sucks.

HTH.

sumnom

Any news PuddlePirate? What do you have?

PuddlePirate

I Think the word "schock" comes to mind...

I got lots of the 1943 aluminum axes, didn't think much about the aluminum ladies, I thought they were a simple die variation. I am gonna have to look at them closer when I get home tonite.

sumnom

PP, do tell what you find when you get home.