2005 Topps Heritage question for joestalin or other experts
Gemmy10
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Is $35 (including shipping costs) a good price for a base set (no SP's)? Is there any price appreciation potential here?
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25-35$ for a base set is good IMO...as it was last year.
The set without the SP's has little attraction - consider that the approximate cost per card, without regard to Beckett, is about 3 bucks divided by 8 - you can see that you are getting a lot of cards for the money.
Appreciation?
IMO, No.
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Mike
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If you are a fan of the set, I'd say that's a good price for the base set.
I like the 2001 Heritage set since it's patterned after 1952 Topps. I have seen the base set with SP's sell for $217 on eBay recently. Do you ever see the 2001 set without the SP's on eBay? If so, how much?
You might be better off getting 35 bucks worth of packs! Im sure that there would be plenty of us willing to trade you base cards for
short prints or heaven knows you pull an auto! Plus whats the fun of buying it all at once? The thrill of the chase is what makes this
product great.
Keep in mind there are going to be alot of heritage carnage around here, Im sure between the group here you could manage
a base set, I would send you anything you needed towards the end for free. It might be worth it to go and maybe spend 30
on a retail box! Perhaps the best part is the trading! I still have the famous chain box, that Mike and John has sent cards in it...who
knows where it will end up next!
It just depends on how much fun/headache you want to go through! LOL
Good Luck
Kevin
The last cases or boxes I bought were 2001 Upper Deck Golf. Took a bloodbath and forever to open the packs in the two cases I bought, but it was fun. Sold several Tour Threads before they took a dump so all wasn't lost but did lose money overall. At least I didn't wait until the boxes fell below $100.
I would say give the packs a chance. Wait for it to hit retail and then buy a sealed retail box for 30 bucks. I can almost
guarentee you that would have a base set after a few trades.
I can sell you some 2001 heritage if you want. They are very hard to find, and boxes are over 200 if you can find them. I would have to
sell the singles for 75% book but might be able to throw in some Yankee base cards for free..of course the Yankee line up has
changed quite a bit.
I always wondered what happened to 2001 heritage card #311 David Parrish....Lance's kid...man talk about big shoes to fill! Who was
#311 in the original set?
Kevin
That would be the Mick of course.
The advice Kevin gave you on how to invest your 35 bucks was really on target!
Wait and see what the retail is looking like - you could get 11 SP's from one blister box for 30 bucks!
You can do a lot of trading for that AND as Kevin said...who knows? Ya might pull a cool auto or GU!
And not to beat a dead horse, but look at this team card! This set is absolutely beautiful! Let me know if you want to put a base set together - I will always have extras lying around! No charge except, send me the gum!
I'm building a house.
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Mike
I saw a case a couple of days ago on EBay for $469.00 but it sold via BIN.
autographs under heritage museum?
JS
PS if you could get the case for cheap you probably wouldn't lose any money on it. I think 02 might be a better investment and of course 01...even at
the large prices it is an amazing product!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=55855&item=5160568755
Kevin
How many cases of 2001 Topps Heritage do you reckon are still sealed? It must be very small.
I think the first few years were "investment" years for cases. I would say that last year and this will not be "investment" worthy - you could probably find something better to sink that kind of dough into IMO.
Here's a guy selling a case of 2004 Heritage for $525 and he has another one for 475$ for some reason. Last year, if you ordered real early the best you could probably do is about 425$ - this stuff was relatively plentiful.
That's my take anyway.
your friend
Mike
http://search.ebay.com/2004-Heritage-case_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8
I guess what you are telling me is that we wouldn't be seeing $1,600+ cases within 4 years.
that going up. redemptions were kept to a minium. Mathews, Doby and of course all the 1952 redemptions.
Kevin
a very nice set, and I think the nicest to date. The auto checklist is strong and it has Laynce Nix's best rookie card. If he turns out
to be a stud, then those boxes could get very pricey. Of course there are more redemptions in there but if you could pick up one
at around the same price as a 04 case then that might be the way to go.
Heritage really seems to be picking up steam. You have to wonder when its going to get crazy and people are going to start getting
interested in older sets. If this happens you will be set if you ever decide to sell. If you are talking just money and investment I
think you might be better off with a bowman chrome case.
Kevin
<< <i>Kevin, your expert answers on Heritage have redeemed you. I am taking you out of the woodshed.
I know Kevin feels totally vindicated. Good to know that we are in agreement on the product. The product will probably not depreciate much but making money is a different story.
How about a good mutual fund?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=55857&item=5161218310&rd=1
I have second thoughts. Thanks guys!
Kevin
http://search-completed.ebay.com/2004-Topps-Heritage-box_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcatrefZC6QQfisZ2QQfromZR10QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsadisZ200QQsbrftogZ1QQsofocusZbsQQsojsZ1
Look at this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=55857&item=5166671793&rd=1
It seems like you're looking for an unopened product to invest in. I've thought about doing this with different products throughout the years, but don't have the willpower to not rip them all open. Historically, the sets with a combination of a relatively small print run, plentiful rookies, and visual appeal are usually the ones that end up being sought after 10 and 20 years down the line. Examples- 92 Bowman, 90 Leaf, 89 Upper Deck (not as much so since griffey's been injured), 93 + 94 SP, 95 Bowman's Best. One can argue that 92 Bowman, 90 Leaf, and 89 Upper Deck are no longer sought after, but compare what you can get for them now and what their retail price was and you'd make a killing on a case. Plus, their value should hold as the Rookies from those sets retire and become HOFers. I would stay away from 05 Heritage because of the gaining popularity and the apparent increased print run. You want to try and play it on the safe side when it comes to investment, and Rookies are the way to go. If the set is chock full of RCs, then a couple are bound to make some noise. I would suggest 97 Bowman Chrome (still relatively within reason) and 98 Bowman Chrome (Glaus and Magglio are studs who are bound to have great careers if healthy, plus it's cheap right now), but if you have your heart set on Heritage, I'd rather have 2 boxes of 01, than a case of 05. I'd stick with baseball because in football careers are too short and hardly anything holds value anymore (see 93 SP, 96 Topps Chrome, 97 Select Certified) and in basketball last years stuff is the way to go but it's crazy expensive. 98 Topps Chrome isn't a bad value with Duncan and TMac tho.
Lee
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Mike
Bowman's Best boxes are impossible to come by, but Bowman is somewhat affordable.
Lee
<< <i>One thing I find very interesting is that even though 2002, 2003, and 2004 Topps Heritage cases have gone up nothing like 2001 cases, there are currently no 2002 and 2003 cases for sale on eBay, and the only one who is selling 2 cases of 2004 is Blowout Cards. >>
Gemmy
There are, most likely, guys sitting on cases of every year. There are only a few selling the 01 stuff and this is a good time to sell with the hype from the new issue....and since the 01 is the most appreciated stuff, the guy just might need some dough to pay his taxes or something?
Just a guess
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Mike
Probably. LOL
Do we really need to see that shot of 32 boxes of Heritage cards with every item you post?
I mean, what's the point?
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