Houston we have a problem - Misunderstanding - Your opinion please

clackamas

I sold a coin on ebay, a WI-D upper leaf error. Here is the auction title "Rare Wisconsin Upper Leaf error BU from Original Roll
Rarest of the two varieties" Auction link

In the description I state: "The upper leaf is ~twice as rare as the lower leaf variety. This is a no reserve auction the highest bidder wins the actual coin pictured.I found these in an original roll. These are the most exciting errors in years and are turning out to be fairly rare. Althought there are a bunch on Ebay right now, they are not that common. I have heard estimates that there are approx. 1500 of the upper leaf errors known. Out of a mintage of hundreds of Millions that is rare.
Isee the "found these" may cause some confusion but the buyer calls me up today, very excited, that he won an ENTIRE ROLL of the the upper leafs. Obvioulsy I would not sell an entire roll, if I even had one for the price this auction closed at. I offered to cancel the aution but the buyer wants me to come up with a roll of these. What is going on here, was the auction not clear enough?


"The upper leaf is ~twice as rare as the lower leaf variety. This is a no reserve auction the highest bidder wins the actual coin pictured.I found these in an original roll. These are the most exciting errors in years and are turning out to be fairly rare. Althought there are a bunch on Ebay right now, they are not that common. I have heard estimates that there are approx. 1500 of the upper leaf errors known. Out of a mintage of hundreds of Millions that is rare.

Smittys

Your title say from an orginal roll, not an original roll, also
you will recieve the coin pictured.
I think the bidder can't read.
JMO

Longacre

The language that you used is a little confusing, in my opinion, but not so much so that I would think you are selling an entire roll. Maybe next time say specifically that it is a single coin.

tlhoy

This is a no reserve auction the highest bidder wins the actual coin pictured.

coin pictured.

Enough said!

Edit to add: Here's a Neg she received...NEG. Buyer has unrealistic expectations & would not communicate problem

airplanenut

Based on the title and description, I don't see why someone would seriously think it was an entire roll--you'd have to be a moron to not say it was a roll if it were. Block the bidder in the future.

Jeremy

seanq

He either can't read or he's pulling a scam. Give him one more chance to pay, then startr NPB proceedings and offer it to the second high bidder. I've dealt with enough of these nutjobs to know you're just wasting your time trying to make him happy.

Quick story - once I sold a Mercury Dime RPM and had a picture of the coin in a cardboard 2x2. I also had a close-up of the mintmark showing the RPM. The high bidder complained that "the coin doesn't have that cool ridge of metal around it like the picture" - he thought the window of the 2x2 was part of the coin. He had no clue what "RPM" stood for, didn't care about "stuff you need a microscope to see" and refused to return the coin for a rafund (it was only $5). He left me a nasty feedback instead, that I sold him "a used car". That's why I say RUN, don't walk, away from this one.

Good luck,

Sean Reynolds

Lakesammman

Clear to me - sounds like a scam. What you've offered is reasonable; they aren't.

stev32k

Sounds to me like buyers remorse. Maybe the guy got carried away and over bid and now wants out of the deal. Your title and description seem clear to me.

Russ

Is the bidder an AOL user?

Russ, NCNE

clackamas

<< <i>Is the bidder an AOL user?

Russ, NCNE >>



MSN from WI. Usually I only sell certified coins so I get to deal with people who actually know coins and I am not use to having to explain what is meant. I guees this comes with the territory when a bunch of non coin people get into the hobby. I want the auction cancelled, it is not worth the hassle, besides the coin is very nice and would probably go MS65 and would be worth more in a holder.

skompier

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I clearly understand that you are selling one coin. ...

Steve

Russ

<< <i><< Is the bidder an AOL user?

Russ, NCNE >>

MSN >>



HMM...they're usually marginally more intelligent.

Russ, NCNE

pharmer

Clear as crystal IMO, Brian. Patch things up by taking a personal interest in this person's life by asking if they have been forgetting to take their Prozac lately.

Manorcourtman

Your auction clearly states the facts and is very clear. The buyer is impaired or a scam. You have nothing to worry about. I'd send him a email one more time explaining the auction again. You have done nothing wrong. Chris

Bochiman

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<< <i><< Is the bidder an AOL user?

Russ, NCNE >>

MSN >>



HMM...they're usually marginally more intelligent.

Russ, NCNE >>



Marginally? Hey Russ, bite me!

darktone

Clearly you are only selling one coin. The buyer is from Wisconsin- lots of red-neck hill billy's in this state so you might to talk real slow next time you talk to this guy. And if you need a translater I am available. mike

Neptune

It is evidently a clear error on the Bidder's part. I would tell him he could slide, and relist - ONLY if he pays ALL fees, and a restocking fee. Otherwise he is responsible. You could always check with your 2nd highest bidder to see if they want it for the 440.

relayer

Reading and comprehension skills are an important part of functioning in society ( and so are writing skills ).

You say the highest bidder wins the actual coin pictured certainly seems to convey a singular coin is being offered.

The title also refers to a singular error BU as does the word from Original Roll.

But where you got confusing is when you started to reference these as I found these in an original roll. These are the most exciting errors which is plural.

I would explain to drgamble that if a doctor was removing a kidney (the actual kidney in the xray) from a patient but instead removed those kidneys (plural) from the patient he would kill them.

So reading comprehension is important - even on eBay.

JxnBoy

I didn't find this to be confusing at all. Clearly one coin. Unfortunately I think you're on the hook for feedback, but if this guy doesn't pay the winning bid, I'd accept the neg, move on, sell to the next highest bidder or relist. If this guy looked at any other auctions, I can't believe he thought this was for one roll.

K6AZ

+1 to my BBL.

K6AZ

Hey, I just had a thought. $440 divided by 40 equals $11 each. Wonder if this is an alt eBay ID of Ken Potter's?

JxnBoy

Oh, and I remember your thread about "Oh my. I think I have buyer's remorse. I bough a roll of these for <don't remember what it was>."

I'd say you did OK...

techeff

but the buyer wants me to come up with a roll of these.



Your auction is very clear to me. Canceling his bid is more than generous of you!

tmot99

It was clear to me, but I can see limited confusion from your listing. I do have a brain and use it on a daily basis, so I knew it was for a single coin. Tell the buyer it is one coin or none. Take it or leave it.

coinguy1

I hate to break up this heart warming "support the CU forum member" party, but I think the bidder/buyer might actually have a valid point.

And........



....... as soon as I figure out what it is, I will be more than happy to share it with you guys.

clackamas

<< <i>Oh, and I remember your thread about "Oh my. I think I have buyer's remorse. I bough a roll of these for <don't remember what it was>."
I'd say you did OK... >>



yeah, I rolled the dice and won. SOmetimes you are the ball sometimes the bat. Even in that auction I knew it was not an entire roll LOL.

ss350camaro

Looks pretty clear to me. The bidder obviously has buyers remorse and is trying to get out of the transaction.

Just contact the underbidder and offer it to them at their high bid (second chance offer)

If you re-list leave out the "from Original roll" in the title and put "1 coin".

19Lyds

Check out the buyers neg: "Buyer has unrealistic expectations & would not communicate problem".
Give him one more try then offer to the next higher bidder at his last bid.