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is this a good deal after the sticker shock?

calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
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110 1972 PSA 10 for 25 grand


it works out about $225 or so per card, i know i have seen Eomint from the boards bid higher than that per card.

what do you guys think?
"Women should be obscene and not heard. "
Groucho Marx

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  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭
    A very interesting auction. I would not be suprised, however, if it did not sell; it just seems to be quite a bit to spend for a relatively new issue. I am not sure what the seller's motivation is, maybe it is just to test the waters to see what will happen. If he gets the 25k, awesome. If not, he would just rather keep them. Seems like a few of us here from time to time put these feeler auctions out.

    Thanks for the auction link. I am watching it to see if it sells.
  • jimtbjimtb Posts: 704 ✭✭
    If I were selling something for 25000 bucks, I'd give a heck of a lot more information, and I'd make sure that the link to the site was clickable.
    Collecting all graded Alan Trammell graded cards as well as graded 1984 Topps, Donruss, and Fleer Detroit Tigers
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  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭✭
    Why not break them up? Doesn't make any sense.

    Loves me some shiny!
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    5 cent listing day have anything to do with this?
    Good for you.
  • kingraider75kingraider75 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭
    does 5 cent listing work with a reserve though???
    Running an Ebay store sure takes a lot more time than a person would think!
  • 19541954 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭
    Good point Steve.
    It seems like Ebay is having these pretty often. I keep seeing all the dealers inventory out there with large BIN numbers.

    1954
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    does 5 cent listing work with a reserve though???

    The auction in question does not have a reserve. Just a hi starting bid.

    I believe you do pay extra for a reserve type auction even when Ebay does a special.
    Good for you.
  • downgoesfrazierdowngoesfrazier Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    Seems pretty straight forward to me. The guy has a fantastic group of cards, he really likes them, but has a price he's willing to part with them for. He's taking a shot. If I had a wad of disposable loot and was interested in building another world-class 70's set, I'd look long and hard at it. The price tag reflects the opportunity to add 110 really high-end cards in one shot. That is worth a premium to many. As for breaking them up, you get six of one--half a dozen of the other. Some sell for 400+ and some go for about 80 bucks. It's is also a lot more work and you have to deal with EVERY buyer being above board. This way ONE buyer and it's all good. I wish the guy luck and that Koosman gave me chills...what a freakin' card!!! Gorgeous!!!


    dgf
  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    If your selling something like that you don't do it on eBay. Go to Lelands or mastro.
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  • downgoesfrazierdowngoesfrazier Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    Knuckles,
    Why not take a shot at it with a .05 listing fee? If you don't sell it...then give someone 15-20% of your sale.


    dgf
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DAMN, after thinking about a lot like this I just want to take all of my 78 PSA 9's and pee all over them

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    Yes, it is my auction. Yes, for $0.05, what the heck? Kind of a fun auction, probably won't sell for a couple reasons. Listed it anyway, also for a couple reasons. I've sold three graded sets in the last year, real pain. I will probably sell this one too within the next three to five years. Why this probably won't sell: 1) $25k is a big hunk of cash for most, though the lot is fairly priced based on what I paid over the last year; 2) the 72 big boys (Frank and psuinnyc) already own 1/3 to 1/2 the cards and EO seems to have no desire to move up in the registry ranks. Why I listed it anyway: 1) If someone wanted to get into a high end 72 set, the door is open and I'd love to keep the cards together; 2) great exposure for a great year of cards - already viewed 250+ times in less than 12 hours; 3) It was cold and rainy here in Pittsburgh today and wanted to do something different; 4) If it sold on ebay, they take $300-400; an auction house, $3-4k. So I'm out a nickel.
    Dave
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    1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
    1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
    1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
    1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
    1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
    1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
  • downgoesfrazierdowngoesfrazier Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    DR,
    Sounds like I read your mind. I'll bet there are some real screamers in there.

    Soft,
    You really had me laughin' on that one!


    dgf
  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    DGF: I've looked at starting some other 70's or even 80's sets recently, and would love to find a similar "starter" lot, assuming it was priced fairly. Don't see them though. So I decided to start my own 86 Topps PSA 10 set. Neat looking cards, kind of 60's-ish, very difficult to get 10's out of, and I picked up 18,000 rack pack cards for a few hundred bucks. Not a money thing, since the few 86 10's out there only sell for $10, but a collecting thing. Nobody else (registry-wise) is collecting them, so that's a bit of an issue. I'd like to have done the same thing with 72's, but after a couple of grand for a couple handfuls of packs, and only one 10 to show for it, figured I'd let someone else bust those things.

    Soft: Priceless!
    Dave
    _________________
    1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
    1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
    1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
    1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
    1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
    1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
  • goudeygoldgoudeygold Posts: 701 ✭
    Exactly... your out a nickel. Why not?! I simply cannot imagine that if $25,000 buys 15% of the 787 card set, your looking at probably $200,000 for a "perfect" 1972 topps set. Seems like the set is too new for those prices, but who knows. Lots of activity on the registry list so lots of people are dumping money into it thats for sure. I'm used to looking at pre-war registered sets and it seems there are a few big dogs with 7+ GPA, then it drops off quick simply due to the POP reports. Hell, many sets you can get a PSA 5 and there are less than a dozen total higher from 6-7-8-9-10. For the 72 set for example there are tons of GPAs over 8 and many over 9. but good god!!! seven hundred and eighty seven cards!!!!

    good luck! Hey, why don't you amuse us and add it to the registry!! The GPA would be a stunning 10.0!!!!!

    GG

  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    GG: Putting this complete set together in a 9.0 GPA is an expensive proposition; it's been done once. Later this year, it will probably be done one or two more times. Minimum cost: $65k. Three yrs ago it would have cost around $85-100k, but the common 9's and quite a few 10's have come down in price significantly. The cost to put an 8.0 GPA set together has also dropped; it could probably be done for $10-15k for a budget minded collector willing to be patient over a couple years. As for putting this set together in a 10.0, couldn't happen, for now anyways, since probably a quarter of the cards haven't been found in 10 condition, and another 1/4 to a 1/3 are 1/1's, safely locked away in unbudging collections. It would be fun to try, if money wasn't a factor for you.
    Dave
    _________________
    1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
    1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
    1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
    1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
    1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
    1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    good luck Dave,

    i dont think it will sell right now, but its definetly not a bad deal.

    specially for a collector of this set, who can sell most of the pop 1/1 and recoup probably 10 grand or more, and they would keep the rest making the cost per card even lower.
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
  • downgoesfrazierdowngoesfrazier Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    Dave,
    I have many, many, many 77's waiting for a home if you'd like to take THAT plunge. I'm also doing 86-88 Topps in Gem. I'll only grade a handful as PSA is just too random on the 9/10 thing for me. If I ever grade the whole schmeer (slap me) I'll give 'em to Roger to send in.
    On the 86's, I've already sorted a half-dozen 6-boxes, 2 3-boxes, a vending case and a wax case. How 'bout 1/3 of the way done! Those are brutal. To get 'em jet-black, glossy, crisp, centered with NO pd's AND no corner issues is a test of will and patience. The toughest part is the extra stock. It seems to "fleck" away enamel at the tips where the stock was pulled. I've been "close" with well over 1000 cards that went to the "cherry" pile as near-misses. I have four piles 1. SET cards (Gem Mint), 2. Tech Mints (For future grading or whatever. These are cards that are mint but not special). 3. Cherries (for cards that present perfectly, but have a flaw under magnification that I can't get past.
    4. Boxed (refers to the typical card that will be put in a 5000 ct. box likely to never see the light of day again until it is hauled to the curb. The funny thing is there are probably thousands of 9's in the "boxed" pile that are just too soft or dull. Anyway, maybe we can trade our dupes...just like kids! Wow, trading dupes, what a concept...collecting because you ENJOY it...hmmmm. Give me an email when you get some time.


    dgf
  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    DGF: email sent on the 86's!
    Dave
    _________________
    1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
    1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
    1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
    1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
    1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
    1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
  • CollectorChrisCollectorChris Posts: 144
    If the price was lowered to $22,500 I might be interested, but $25,000 is indeed a stretch.

    Good luck!
  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    Jimtb: Taking your advice, I added a functional link to the auction. To do that, I found an HTML teacher for ebay HTML for EBAY that seems pretty awesome for HTML beginners.
    Dave
    _________________
    1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
    1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
    1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
    1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
    1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
    1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
  • calleochocalleocho Posts: 1,569 ✭✭
    It didnt sell, but the auction did get 800 + hits.


    any thoughts?
    "Women should be obscene and not heard. "
    Groucho Marx
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