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what about eye appeal?

monsterman would seem to agree. from a post in another thread:


the biggest change in numismatics that has made large advances in the last 10 years is the quest for eye appealing coins...people want eye appealing coins....several top dealers have been preaching it for years...eye appealing coins has in the past and will continue in the future to be where its at.... the ngc star* is the first attempt to acknowledge this on a slab...imho it will continue...and pcgs will ...in time do a like kind ....or get left behind






image is EYE APPEAL the wave of the future?image

myself i know it is..............

of all the subjective grading objectives strike. marks, lustre, in my opinion eye appeal is the most important and is the wave of the future

any comments??

how about eye appeal in combination with high technical grade? in proof and/or business strike format?

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  • ArtRArtR Posts: 474 ✭✭✭
    Many years ago I tried to put together a Toned Date set of Morgans. After years of banging my head against a wall I realized that I was not going to be able to do this and come up with all 28 coins with exceptional eye appeal. ( May have changed now with many Toned Morgans coming out of the woodwork) I decided to just collect regardless of date, Great Toned Morgans with as I stated exceptional eye appeal. I have tried to collect in grades of 65 or higher, but would never pass on a monster, regardless of the grade, whose holder it is in, or if it was raw. To cut this short Eye Appeal to me is the most important element a coin can posses, it is everything.
    If It doesn't have great eye appeal, I don't want it.
  • Eye Appeal forgives a little and adds a lot image
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  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal is nice, no doubt about it. BUT...I still feel it has no place in assigning a grade. You cannot deny that the technical grade of a coin is the TRUE grade. Inflating a coins grade based upon eye appeal is wrong. Do the graders knock a point or two off because of unappealing toning? Nope...they simply don't add to it and leave it at the technical grade.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I've seen a lot of coins that some people feel have terrific eye appeal and I think they look horrible and likewise the opposite.

    I still think the graders should just assign a technical grade and let the marketplace place a premium on the coin from there. A technically graded MS-63 is still an MS-63 no matter how much eye appeal it has. Anything more than that is pure BS.

    Just my eversohumble opinion.

    Cheers,

    Bob
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Eye Appeal forgives a little and adds a lot >>

    That saying is hanging on the wall of the PCGS grading room.image
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    First thing I look for in a coin is eye appeal.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Eye appeal is closely linked to quality in my opinion. Note that I link it to quality and not to grade. You can have eye appeal and quality at any grade. But I agree and this is the direction I'm taking my collection.
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    One caveat is that what may appear as "eye appeal" could be "doctored". I look for completely natural surfaces and technical attributes as well. Many time a "natural" coin may not have tons of flash....like a dippped coin may! It's a broad combination of qualities that comprise of true eye appeal.
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    >Do the graders knock a point or two off because of unappealing toning?

    Actually, the graders I have spoken to do say that negative to severe negative toning will cause a drop of a point or two.
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eye appeal is important, but i think Outhaul has nailed it. a grading service should assign a grade and not try to assign a premium in addition to that with some quasi-eye-appeal designator such as the star. i've seen some star coins that were priced higher than where the next grade up would be. that's silly.

    with all that said, i can only agree that eye appealing coins are the best ones to have. my mentor told me a few years back that when he first looks through a dealer's cases, he'll snatch up the coins which catch his eye for his own inventory. he tells me that those are the ones he's able to move the quickest, coins that jump out when you see them. they tend to sell themselves.

    do we really need to have a grading service add some symbol to the insert which effectively tells the seller he can charge more for the coin??? i think not.

    al h.image
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I prefer original coins with eye appeal. I have a little trouble knowing original surfaces (I am still learning what to look for), unless they are obviously not original, but I definitely know if I "like" a coin or not as soon as I look at it. I am not a big fan of the grading services telling me what is a coin with good eye appeal. It is totally subjective and up to the individual. For example, I don't like bright, shiny gold coins. I like old looking, "dirty" coins, that look like they've been around the block (insert joke here). But that's just my taste. A bright, shiny gold coin with an NGC star might not appeal to me.
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    A good example of misleading eye appeal...in Saints, there are a few mintages that have prevalent copper spots...that is AS MADE...now I like them, David Akers loves them...but some dealers think like a novice collector, assume that it makes the coin harder to sell and take perfectly "natural" coins and have the spots removed! image

    Those spots are what makes the coin "original". I would DESIRE a 1922-S Saint with copper spotting.
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  • MAKE THAT ORIGINAL EYE APPEALING COINS FOR ME, Agreat combination.image
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Why would anybody buy a coin without great eye appeal?image
    Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Looking good to me is more clean surfaces and strong strike, toning is a bonus but not necessary.
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