Does anyone know what these mysterious tokens are?

traderdave

I was wondering if any of you knew anything about these tokens??? They are light and thin, but I am not sure what kind of copper alloy they are made of. One (the first one) is dated 1812, and the second one reads 1820. The 1812 token doesn't seem to have much wear, but is quite flat in the center, with a rather odd circular outer border.

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Thanks in advance for your help.

Blackhawk

Irish gunmoney?

elverno

The 1812 could be Breton 961 or one of its varieties. No idea on the "Irish" piece (could be Canadian as well).

Blackhawk

Oh yeah...I didn't think of Canadian tokens. The second piece appears to be an imitation of the 1820 Bust and Harp token, listed as Breton 112.

canadiancoinguy

Yep, counterfeit Tiffin and Bust/Harp tokens.