Question about 1885cc morgan bb by pcgs for cleaning

Vet

I sent in a 1885cc morgan to pcgs I was positive it would grade at min. 64 pl came back in a body bag for cleaning. After I got the coin back I looked at it even harder and the rev. does have some faint hair lines can only make them out with magnafication. Yesterday I took the coin to the B$I coin shop in Tacoma Wa. asked the dealer there for an opinion he took the coin and checked it out , his first response was that he questioned the authenticity, that it was over wheight. I explained to him that I had just gotten it back from PCGS in a body bag for cleaning, and they hadn't questioned its authenticity. My question is if there were any question of authenticity wouldn't that have been the reason for the BB? .

Stuart

Vet: PCGS is very strict and extremely conservative about not certifying coins and not slabbing them if they perceive hairlines on the coin to have been caused by some type of frictional cleaning. They will typically return the coin(s) in a body bag with the reson being for cleaning.

This can be as minor as a simple wipe with a soft cloth at some point in the coin's history. I guarantee if you can see the hairlines, so can their graders.

I have submitted the following coin to PCGS and am awaitng their verdict on the very faint hairlines visible in the field area to the left of Miss Liberty's jaw.

coinguy1

<< <i>My question is if there were any question of authenticity wouldn't that have been the reason for the BB? . >>

It is possible that PCGS might quickly hone in on a reason other than lack of authenticity to no-grade a coin and neglect to note it as a fake. But, I think that would be a very rare occurrence and (sight-unseen, at least) that the odds of your coin being counterfeit are extremely remote.

DNADave

The dealer was trying to rip you off.

Vet

Here is a scan of the coin in question.

Stuart

Vet: A digital photograph would be more revealing of the coin's luster than your scan. However, the coin looks OK to me solely based upon your scanned image.

I do see a few hairline scratches across Miss Liberty's cheek which may have impacted PCGS' determination. The coin looks about MS-64 to 65 to me, depending on the amount of mint luster.

Vet

I don't have a digital camera . The coin has great luster and refective surfaces at 3 to 4 inches. I know the scans don't show this but it is a very nice looking coin in hand. So how much value does a coin lose by a light cleaning? Would a person be better of to sell it raw as cleaned or send it to annacs for a net grade?

K6AZ

Vet, it's hard to tell with a scan. I would send the coin to ANACS where it will get into a holder.