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mantle rookie card?

kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
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is this the real thing. price is kinda high for a reprint?

mantle.

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  • denwd1denwd1 Posts: 430
    fake....lazer scan,or it does not exist at all....but there is always a sucker willing to get taken: check out his last SALE. link
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Shills bidding up the price hoping to catch a sucker with a "herd mentality" bid.
  • denwd1denwd1 Posts: 430
    the high bidder budbeer2078 is either a shill or the dumbest person on earth. in his discription the seller of this fake says:"looks and feels old from the paper stock." he must have found some old paper to use in his lazer printer.image
  • 1977topps1977topps Posts: 275 ✭
    "I am willing to end the auction earlier if a good deal is made" I bet you are.
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  • jrdolanjrdolan Posts: 2,549 ✭✭
    A day without a Mantle scam is like a day without sunshine.

    Low feedback + poor feedback + "I don't know the card's value" + "I am willing to end auction early" + shill bids + sharp corners = one unhappy buyer, if he's real. At least the scam this time is only $610.
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    Of course it's a scam, but the scams have really cooled off since the days of last summer when I first started tracking them. The biggest scammers are out of business, and the majority now are small-time petty theives like broadwayblueshirt94, tandaexpresscardshoppe & jimbom1234. In June and July, the scams were totally upwards of $80K a month, now they are between 15-20K/month. You would think even the most ignorant people would question why so many of the 1952 Mantle cards they see listed on eBay look significantly different from one another, let alone have to pick out which ones look real (hint: none of the raw ones are ever real except once or twice a year).

    Let's not forget, in Fantasyland (aka: eBay) they grow on trees like apples & oranges.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Chris, I always look for that missing pixel on the left side of the card and I don't see it. What kind of scammer would not know this ? image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • jaxxrjaxxr Posts: 1,258 ✭✭
    Whether a reprint ( probably ) or the real thing, one point is certain............

    The seller is WRONG about it being Mick's rookie card !

    1951 Bowman is the real Mantle rookie, Mays also. The 52 Bowman is not, nor is the much more popular 52 Topps.

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  • TwinsthreepeatTwinsthreepeat Posts: 278 ✭
    The missing pixel is only on the variation with the "butchered" name box.

    The mantle card was double printed. Those two cards on the sheet were different. One them the name box was "pretty" and stiches on the baseball on the back pointed to the left. The other the name box was "butchered" missing pixel, and the baseball on back pointed to the right. Along with acouple other differnces.

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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thanks twins! I would NEVER pass as a vintage guy, I'm learning image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭
    Strange brew of bidders - this is like watching a train wreck happen.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    how can you spot a reprint or fake from the real one? i see the scans there but i dont understand?

    id like to know bc one day i want to own this card.
  • MorrellManMorrellMan Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭
    Check this out.
    The webmaster of this site is on this thread and is incredibly knowledgeable on this subject.
    Mark (amerbbcards)


    "All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing."
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    well instead of paying ill trust in some board members here! stone193 joestalin lothar52 stevek 1420sports and many more guys on here ill wait for there opionions!
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    I sent you a PM. I only sell access on eBay to cover fees and lend credibility to it. I had a couple complaints after people realized they could get the link to access it off this message board, so I had to change it to alleviate the problem. If you would like to read the guide, PM me.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember reading the guide before the author starting charging for it. That is his prerogative to charge for it and he offered it free to Kuhlmann and that was cool. From what I remember about the guide it was well done and informative.

    My feeling has always been, not only regarding 52 Mantles but any expensive card, most times, if not every time, figuring out the seller's "intentions" is much more important than trying to figure out if the card on ebay is real or not - especially because of stolen scans. Some of the CU members here are outstanding at figuring out scams and a lot can be learned from them. I brought a lot of knowledge in when joining the forum and have also learned much from this forum as well. I learn a little something new almost every day here.

    I'm like Kuhlmann in that one day wanting a 52 Mantle and in fact I have put a pretty good dent into my Topps 52 set - long way to go yet - no Mantle, Mathews, etc., yet. I enjoy shopping for baseball card "bargains" on ebay and am also a seller. But when I finally come around to buying a 52 Mantle, I'm not going to look for such a bargain - I'm just gonna buy a PSA graded card from a very highly reputable dealer.
  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,165 ✭✭✭
    Anyone here watch "Conspiracy?" on the history channel? Maybe they should do an episode on "The 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle" lol
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