1807 DRAPED BUST .....is this real or fake?

tsacch

Your thoughts?

I have wanted a nice draped half for so long, but just dont like raw.......anyhow.........your thoughts as to authenticity?

thanks,

tom

mr1931S

looks genuine to me

DNADave

Real but harshly cleaned and being handled improperly in photos. You can do better.

blueifalcon

I've only been collecting for approx. uno year and can't pretend to be as knowledgable as most here, but I see fingers all over that coin. I don't collect this type coin, although I believe they are nice. In my humble opinion, it's probably an original, but I would have to think twice before buying it. Did I just say that, helloooooo!...Tom

ldhair

Looks real to me.
Sure it's been cleaned, but it don't look bad to have spent a hundred and something years in the ground.
If it really did?

rhedden

Three reasons not to buy this one from a numismatist's point of view:

1. Obviously cleaned
2. Has a rim cut in LIBERTY like most of the coins from that hoard
3. 1807 is by far the commonest and most available date of Draped Bust half, and you can easily find another for sale just about anywhere

That being said, if you want a coin that has historic value due to having been recovered from a fort site, I wouldn't hesitate to bid, even though the coin is damaged.

roadrunner

Fort-site? Why not a shipwreck effect seated half as a mate?

The coin does look pretty decent for having been buried. The story adds nothing to the value imo. I'd much prefer a coin already holdered. I can use the display case for cigars and the map for driving around upstate New York. We have an old fort not too far from where I live. Send me your 1807 halves plus $100 S&H and I'll bury them overnight, and also include a cigar box and map if you want. You get your coin back too by the way!

roadrunner

PreTurb

Looks like an O-110 to me - fairly common variety.

RotatedRainbows

<< <i>Fort-site?

I can use the display case for cigars and the map for driving around upstate New York.

roadrunner >>

tsacch

Well, like I said, its raw, so its not on my bid list. I just want to start a nice type set and thats one type i need. if it were a lot cheaper, maybe....but not for what its at now. thanks for the replies.

tom

Baley

Oh, it's a real coin, but not a very nice one

I think you'd be happier with one with more original looking surfaces and no damage
something along the lines of this coin

PCGS F-15, O.102

tsacch

Baley, I sure would be..............is it for sale for less than $200? $300?

lordmarcovan

Everything I had to say was already said by rhedden.

I have two views on that coin. One, as a numismatist, and the other, as a detectorist. While the two devotions often go hand-in-hand, there are times that they diverge. I agree that a better piece could be found for one's collection, but on the other hand, it's amazing for a ground find.

Baley

The hoard reportedly consisted of a couple hundred coins, including lots of draped bust halves.
Virtually all coins had some kind of mark at or about 12 o'clock, usually 3-5 mm by about 0.5 mm,
All the ones he's listed had a cleaned appearance.

Tom, coins like the one i posted were available in the 2-300 range a couple years ago, but they're a bit higher now.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>All the ones he's listed had a cleaned appearance. >>



Dug coins are usually cleaned, as a matter of necessity. This is why past cleaning is not a big taboo with ancient coins, provided it was done properly.