<< <i>Actually, it's perfectly safe to remove it from XP, but then you have the problem with the Windows update among other things. I prefer it, but then again I do this for a significant part of my income so I know how to fortify it. I've just seen too many people lulled into a false sense of security using Netscape/Mozilla, and get nailed. >>
Understood, and in general I agree with your position. Really though, you shouldn't combine Netscape and Mozilla like that. They are no longer related.
Netscape is now AOL and I won't touch it. Mozilla, like Sea Monkey before it, is open source and put together by the original Netscape guys.
I used to do this stuff as my only income. I was fortunate to land a far better deal as a combination contractor/employee. Now I manage other engineers, it's a bit like herding cats.
I get the benefits of both types of incomes and a messy set of tax returns once a year also.
"Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
Netscape runs off of Gecko just like Firefox. The only difference is that Netscape has a few extra bells and whistles. The rendering agent, and in fact 99% of the codebase, is identical.
As for IE being bulletproof, all I have to say to that is HA! With the right settings? Sure, but then it's about as useful as a brick in browsing the internet. Furthermore, there are so many glitches in the code, I'm sure it's still not as "bulletproof" as you think. Is Gecko bulletproof? Nah, but it's a LOT more secure then MSIE, and besides there are fewer hackers targeting Gecko (in whatever incarnation) then there are targeting MSIE.
But I digress, this was a discussion of how to get eBay to work smoothly. My point was that you can dink with IE all day, OR you can just use Netscape (or Firefox, or Mozilla) and browse eBay without the problem. eBay is not the problem; IE is.
(By the way, despite the glitches and mile-wide security holes, I actually like XP. Just not IE.)
Those extra bells and whistles you refer to are also security holes. Anything AOL touches, I try to avoid.
Agreed, I love XP Pro. I go back to NT 1.0 and I've never liked nor used any version of IE except when required.
"Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
I'm just going to make one final comment, because this is a coin board and not a tech board. If the popularity of the browsers was reversed, with Netscape/Mozilla being used by 80% of PC users, I can guarantee you the security holes in that browser would be exploited. And you're only kidding yourself if you think Netscape/Mozilla has no holes.
<< <i>I'm just going to make one final comment, because this is a coin board and not a tech board. If the popularity of the browsers was reversed, with Netscape/Mozilla being used by 80% of PC users, I can guarantee you the security holes in that browser would be exploited. And you're only kidding yourself if you think Netscape/Mozilla has no holes. >>
Agreed, the same holds true for Mac users who foolishly claim they are virus proof.
"Lenin is certainly right. There is no subtler or more severe means of overturning the existing basis of society(destroy capitalism) than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and it does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose." John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
<< <i>I'm just going to make one final comment, because this is a coin board and not a tech board. If the popularity of the browsers was reversed, with Netscape/Mozilla being used by 80% of PC users, I can guarantee you the security holes in that browser would be exploited. And you're only kidding yourself if you think Netscape/Mozilla has no holes. >>
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<< <i>Actually, it's perfectly safe to remove it from XP, but then you have the problem with the Windows update among other things. I prefer it, but then again I do this for a significant part of my income so I know how to fortify it. I've just seen too many people lulled into a false sense of security using Netscape/Mozilla, and get nailed. >>
Understood, and in general I agree with your position. Really though, you shouldn't combine Netscape and Mozilla like that. They are no longer related.
Netscape is now AOL and I won't touch it. Mozilla, like Sea Monkey before it, is open source and put together by the original Netscape guys.
I used to do this stuff as my only income. I was fortunate to land a far better deal as a combination contractor/employee. Now I manage other engineers, it's a bit like herding cats.
I get the benefits of both types of incomes and a messy set of tax returns once a year also.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
As for IE being bulletproof, all I have to say to that is HA! With the right settings? Sure, but then it's about as useful as a brick in browsing the internet. Furthermore, there are so many glitches in the code, I'm sure it's still not as "bulletproof" as you think. Is Gecko bulletproof? Nah, but it's a LOT more secure then MSIE, and besides there are fewer hackers targeting Gecko (in whatever incarnation) then there are targeting MSIE.
But I digress, this was a discussion of how to get eBay to work smoothly. My point was that you can dink with IE all day, OR you can just use Netscape (or Firefox, or Mozilla) and browse eBay without the problem. eBay is not the problem; IE is.
(By the way, despite the glitches and mile-wide security holes, I actually like XP. Just not IE.)
Those extra bells and whistles you refer to are also security holes. Anything AOL touches, I try to avoid.
Agreed, I love XP Pro. I go back to NT 1.0 and I've never liked nor used any version of IE except when required.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
<< <i>I'm just going to make one final comment, because this is a coin board and not a tech board. If the popularity of the browsers was reversed, with Netscape/Mozilla being used by 80% of PC users, I can guarantee you the security holes in that browser would be exploited. And you're only kidding yourself if you think Netscape/Mozilla has no holes. >>
Agreed, the same holds true for Mac users who foolishly claim they are virus proof.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
<< <i>I'm just going to make one final comment, because this is a coin board and not a tech board. If the popularity of the browsers was reversed, with Netscape/Mozilla being used by 80% of PC users, I can guarantee you the security holes in that browser would be exploited. And you're only kidding yourself if you think Netscape/Mozilla has no holes. >>
Mozilla does, however, have fewer holes.
Come on, ActiveX?????
Russ and Jeff-
Thank you both. Your instructions were very helpful and it did improve the performance on eBay by about half.
Thanks again, I can enjoy the auctions again.
Richard.