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Heritage Part II....release, etc.

Okay, I'm the new guy but you got me hooked. Just picked up two hobby boxes of 05 Heritage from a reputable dealer on ebay for $119.00. Good deal, average, poor? Want to know if anyone knows if the release date is still February 16th or has it been delayed a week? Thanks for the help.

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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Excellent price, you won't be disappointed if this comes out like any of their past heritage products. Our dealer guru here still has
    the 16th as the release date. This is important because heritage will be competing with donruss diamond kings which is in the
    same price range. The more collectors who get hooked the better it will be to trade and then sell if you have to do that.

    right now DK is releasing a week after heritage which should give this product some breathing room.

    I hope you can join us for a live break in a week or so!

    Kevin
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    one of my distributors, called me today said my cases will be in mail on monday they have them today. i will have them by the 16th they promised and then will mail out to you guys. other dist i will have on monday and shipping out on tuesday. so relax and enjoy next week is the week.from what i heard the cards are sweet!
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>one of my distributors, called me today said my cases will be in mail on monday they have them today. i will have them by the 16th they promised and then will mail out to you guys. other dist i will have on monday and shipping out on tuesday. so relax and enjoy next week is the week.from what i heard the cards are sweet! >>



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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    My distributor told me that they oversold the presale, so I am out of luck image Good thing I didn't have any set in stone deals wanting boxes.

    Apologies to anyone who was interested in picking them up from me.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Joe as far as i know dk is releasing on the same day. im getting a few of those for myself.





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  • BigRedMachineBigRedMachine Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the help. I'll crack my boxes whenever everyone else is ready!!!
  • Kuhlman- What are boxes of DK running??
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  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My distributor told me that they oversold the presale, so I am out of luck image Good thing I didn't have any set in stone deals wanting boxes.

    Apologies to anyone who was interested in picking them up from me. >>



    Well it is obvious that Heritage 05 will fly off those retail shelves. I would think that when a distributor oversells the product it means that demand is stronger than expected image

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  • Axtell, are you a dealer?
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    easttexascardsandgames

    63$ a box. if you want any pm me. and i can let you no on monday. here is the write up.

    ~;~HIGHLIGHTS
    MORE AUTOS & MORE AUTO MATERIALCARDS PER CASE!
    2 AUTO OR MEMORABILIA CARDS+ 12 INSERTS PER BOX! (14 HITS)!
    LARGER BASE SET & SELECTION OF HALL OF FAMERS!
    STRONGER CHECKLIST W/ THE ADDITION OF RUTH, WILLIAMS, SPAHN & GRIMES!
    1 INSERT IN EVERY PACK!
    2 1 OF 1'S PER MASTER CASE!

    FEATURED KEY PLAYERS
    Ruth, T. Williams, Clemente, Ripken,Brett, Maris, Mattingly, Schmidt, Musial, Killebrew, Snider, Grimes, Yastrzemski, Ryan, O. Smith, R.Jackson, Spahn, D. Murphy, R. Henderson, Pujols,D. Ortiz, B. Robinson, R. Johnson, Clemens, Prior,C. Beltran, M. Cabrera, Fisk, M. Ramirez, Piazza,Carew, Maddux, Seaver, P. Martinez, Sosa, Schilling, & C. Jones

    PER DISPLAY BOX:
    2 AUTO OR MEMORABILIA CARDS
    3 RED FRAME
    2HOF HEROES
    3 OTHER //'S
    2 OTHER INSERT CARDS*
    (*Timeline, Team Timeline, HeritageCollection, or Gallery of Stars)

    01/21/05 Update:
    1. All B&W versions of thebase set have been removed from the program
    2. The Gallery of Stars insert and all its parallels have also been removed from the program
    3. A base parallel of DK Signatures Black and DKSignature Materials Black was added to the program

    BASE SET:
    300 Commons in the base set!

    Non-Canvas (300) Full // to Base Set
    Parallels: Bronze #'d to 100; Silver #'d to 50; Gold #'d to 25; Platinum #'d to 1

    FRAMED PARALLELS:
    Red (300) 1:3 packs - // to theBase; Blue - #'d to 100; Green #'d to 50; Black #'d to 25; Red, Blue, Green & Black Platinum all 1of 1's!
    Red B & W (50) 1:20 packs - // to Black & White; Blue B & W #'d to 100; Green B & W#'d to 50; Black B & W #'d to 25; Red, Blue, Green, Black Platinum B & W all #'d 1 of 1


    ~;~Materials Bronze (300)
    // to Commons w/ 2 swatches #'d to 200
    Signature Bronze
    //w/ auto & #'d to 100
    Sign Materials Bronze
    // w/ 2 swatches & auto #'d to 200
    Materials Silver
    // w/ 2 swatches #'d to 100
    Signature Silver
    // w/ auto #'d to 100
    Sign Materials Silver
    // w/ 2 swatches& auto #'d to 100
    Materials Gold
    //w/ 2 swatches #'d to 50
    Signature Gold
    ~;~// w/ auto & #'d to 50 Sign Materials Gold
    // w/ 2 swatches & auto #'d to 50
    Materials Platinum
    // w/ 2 swatches #'d to 1
    Signature Platinum
    // w/ auto #'d to1
    Sign Materials Platinum
    // w/ 2 swatches & auto #'d to 1

    FRAMED MATERIALS (300)
    // to the Commons w/ 2 swatches, incl thefollowing variations:
    Red - #'d to 100; RedPlatinum - #'d to 1
    Blue - #'d to 50; BluePlat - #'d to 1
    Green - #'d to 25; Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Black - #'d to 10; Black Plat -#'d to 1


    FRAMED SIGNATURES
    // w/ an auto, incl the following variations:
    Red - #'d to 100; Red Platinum - #'d to 1
    Blue- #'d to 50; Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Green - #'d to 25; Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Black - #'dto 1; Black Plat - #'d to 1

    FRAMED SIGNATURE MATERIALS
    // w/ 2 swatches & an auto, incl the following variations:
    Red - #'d to 100; Red Platinum - #'d to 1
    Blue - #'d to 50;Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Green - #'d to 25; Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Black - #'d to 10; Black Plat - #'d to 1

    Hall of Fame Heroes (50) 1:5 packs
    Insert w/ Hall of Fame Members
    ~;~Hall of Fame Heroes Non-Canvas 1:1240 packs
    ~;~// to HOF Members

    HALL OF FAME HEROES //'S
    Bronze - #'d to 100
    Silver - #'d to50
    Gold - #'d to 25
    Platinum - #'d to1
    Framed Red - 1:20 packs
    Fr Blue - #'d to 100
    Fr Green - #'d to 50
    Fr Black- #'d to 25
    Fr Red Plat (50) - #'d to 1
    Fr Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Black Plat - #'d to 1

    HALL OF FAME HEROES MATERIALS
    // to Hall of Fame Heroes w/ 2 swatches incl the following variations:
    Bronze - #'d to 100
    Silver - #'dto 50
    Gold - #'d to 25
    Platinum - #'dto 10
    Framed Red - #'d to 50
    Fr Blue -#'d to 25
    Fr Green - #'d to 10
    Fr Black (50) - #'d to 10
    Fr Red Plat (50) - #'d to 1
    Fr Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Black Plat - #'d to 1

    HALL OF FAME HEROES SIGNATURES
    // w/ anauto, including the following variations:
    Bronze - #'d to 25
    Silver - #'d to 25
    Gold - #'d to 10
    Platinum - #'d to 1
    Framed Red - #'d to 25
    Fr Blue - #'d to 10
    ~;~Fr Green - #'d to 10
    Fr Black - #'d to 1
    Fr Red Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Green Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Black Plat - #'d to 1

    HALL OF FAME HEROES SIGNATURE MATERIALS
    // w/ 2 swatches & an auto, incl the following variations:
    Bronze - #'d to 50
    Silver - #'d to 50
    Gold - #'d to 25
    Platinum - #'d to 1
    Framed Red - #'d to 50
    Fr Blue - #'d to 25
    FrGreen - #'d to 10
    Fr Black (50) - #'d to 10
    Fr Red Plat (50) - #'d to 1
    Fr Blue Plat - #'d to 1
    Fr Green Plat - #'d to 1
    ~;~Fr Black Plat - #'d to 1

    TIMELINE (25) 1:24 PACKS
    Insert w/ 2 images of a player whoplayed for more than 1 team or 2 players connected in the Baseball Timeline
    Incl the following //'s:
    Materials Jerseys - 2 jersey swatches #'d to 200
    Material Bats - 2 bat swatches#'d to 200
    Material Jerseys Prime - 2 primejersey swatches #'d to 1

    TEAM TIMELINE 1:24 PACKS
    Insert w/ images of 2 players fromthe same team.
    Incl the following //'s:
    ~;~Materials Jerseys - 2 swatches #'d to 200
    Material Bats - 2 swatches #'d to 200
    Material Jerseys Prime - 2 prime swatches #'d to 1

    RECOLLECTION COLLECTION SILVER
    Insert of prev released Diamond Kings w/ auto ser #"d to 150 , incl the following //'s:
    Gold - // w/auto #'d to 25
    Platinum - // w/ auto #'d to1

    DIAMOND CUTS SIGNATURES (50)
    Insert w/ an auto. #'d to 100
    Incl the following//'s:
    Jerseys - 1 swatch #'d to 200
    ~;~Clubs - 1 bat swatch #'d to 200
    Combos -2 material swatches #'d to 200
    Jerseys Signatures - 1 swatch & auto #'d to 100
    ClubsSignatures - 1 bat swatch & auto #'d to 100
    Combos Signatures - 2 material swatches & auto#'d to 100
    Jerseys Prime - 1 prime swatch#'d to 1
    Jerseys Signatures Prime - 1 primeswatch & auto #'d to 1
    Cuts Combos Prime - 2prime jersey swatches #'d to 1
    Combos Signatures Prime - 2 prime material swatches & auto #'dto 1

    HERITAGE COLLECTION (25) 1:24 PACKS
    Insert w/ auto & material //'s
    Incl the following //'s:
    Signatures - auto #'d to 50
    Jerseys - 1 swatch #'d to 200
    Bats- 1 swatch #'d to 200
    Combos - 2 swatches #'d to 200
    Jerseys Signatures - 1 swatch & auto #'d to 100
    Bats Signatures - 1 swatch &auto #'d to 100
    Combos Signatures - 2 swatches & auto #'d to 100
    Jerseys Prime - 1 prime swatch #'d to 1
    Jerseys Signatures Prime -1 prime swatch & auto #'d to 1
    Combos Prime- 2 prime swatches #'d to 1
    Combos Signatures Prime - 2 prime swatches & auto #'d to 1
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    32 boxes per master case. so those 1 of 1's fall 1 in 16 boxes i guess.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK
    It's getting close to the time to really get excited! It would be nice to have a TH time established for us to jam the lines with reports on our rips!

    Would really like to see someone get a 1/1!!!

    Good luck
    your friend
    Heritage Mike
    Mike
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    quick question i dont even know the answer bc i havent asked? Heritage wouldnt do those stupid sticker auto's?? would they?
  • That is the way I understood the DK breakdown for the 1of1's to be 1 per mini case(16 boxes)

    I might be interested in a box of DK, its always another nice looking product.
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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's getting close to the time to really get excited! It would be nice to have a TH time established for us to jam the lines with reports on our rips! >>



    i say lets wait until Kuhlman lets us know that he's shipped them out, and then lets decide on a day/time to post all the results here..

    i'm getting excited too.. i hardly ever buy any wax.. last years heritage was the last time i opened any kind of wax box..
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  • I have never seen them do those sticker autos but it could possibly happen
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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It's getting close to the time to really get excited! It would be nice to have a TH time established for us to jam the lines with reports on our rips! >>



    i say lets wait until Kuhlman lets us know that he's shipped them out, and then lets decide on a day/time to post all the results here..

    i'm getting excited too.. i hardly ever buy any wax.. last years heritage was the last time i opened any kind of wax box.. >>


    Perry
    I can't believe a year has past since this stuff came out! I didn't even buy Topps base brand this year - I usually buy a bunch since it's so cheap. This year I want to be able to buy Heritage without the distraction of another modern set!

    I would like a THC Black Bonds please! image

    Oh, and the red Aaron auto!

    thanx
    your friend
    Heritage Mike
    Mike
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    Id say wait till wednesday night the 23rd. by time i ship all of them on the 15-17th guys that live far like west coast will get them tuesday. so wednesday you should have them open and in sets order what ever. and retail might hit target that night also.
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Kuhlmann-

    I didn't realize that you were talking about Diamond Kings for a second and I saw Ryan's name on the list. Only 12 more years until Topps Heritage gets to the 1968 design!

    On a side note, I was able to pick up an 03 Bonds Refractor on Naxcom for $10. I was really surprised - it usually sells for about $30 or $40 on the bay. My first refractor from that set, but what a way to start off! I just hope I didn't use up all my heritage luck for the month.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Yes, I have the paperwork needed to buy wholesale, and am in the process of setting up a shop on line. Probably will deal just in whole boxes to get capital, and then delve into breaking boxes for singles.

  • Axtell, I have thought about setting up a shop. To get wholesale from a card company such as Upper Deck doesn't one have to have a store front? What a shame since most business is online nowadays.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    To answer on the autographs, topps heritage has ALWAYS had sigs on the card..no cheesy stickers. That means Bonds, or Aaron
    actually held the card when they signed it...I like that!

    DK is more of a lottery type product, but I have to admit that is a great price Chris is giving everyone. These boxes were over 100
    2 weeks into the release. Granted the 1/1's arn't really true 1/1's but variations, still might be worth a shot. The thing about heritage
    is that all the card are valuable. People put together sets and look for the base cards, you will pull 2 maybe 3 decent cards out of
    DK and most likely you will pull a few GU of common players.

    If I get in a better financial state I might buy some DK too off Chris, you can't beat that price.

    beckett has already opened a box of heritage.....arrgggggg

    Kevin
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>beckett has already opened a box of heritage.....arrgggggg >>


    Kevin
    Ya just going to have to get a job over at Beckett!

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    Mike
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    any good pulls out of the box??
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axtell, I have thought about setting up a shop. To get wholesale from a card company such as Upper Deck doesn't one have to have a store front? What a shame since most business is online nowadays. >>



    No. The distributors I have contacted have only asked for a resale license and business license, both of which are available pretty easily (although with most government paperwork, was unnecessarily tedious). It is a violation of the law, however, to buy cards wholesale and sales tax free without the intent of resaling them.

  • <<The distributors I have contacted have only asked for a resale license and business license>>

    OK, but my understanding is in order to go directly to the card company, let's say Upper Deck or Topps, they require a proof of a store front, so you probably are paying extra to go through a "middle man" distributor.

    Have you been in business a long time?

    Thanks for the answer.
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    gemmy to go direct you need proof of store front pictures of all 4 walls in your store. picture of sign of store out front and street sign. i have this with all companies except upeerdeck. they denied me saying i dont sell enough cards. this is going back 3 years ago though. which is true im mostly a fan shop.

    going through the middle man isnt bad as there mark up is usually only 5-10%.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I think beckett pulled a stadium seat of Larsen. No ink or 1/1....so we are still clear to pull them!!

    Kevin
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think beckett pulled a stadium seat of Larsen. No ink or 1/1....so we are still clear to pull them!!

    Kevin >>


    Can you imagine the feeling amongst Heritage collectors if they had pulled a 1/1 Ike?!?!?!?!?

    your friend
    Mike
    Mike
  • Lothar52Lothar52 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭
    i MUST KNOW..

    WHEN DOES RETAIL HIT THE SHELVES?? I WANT TO GET A COUPLE BOXES TO SEE IF THEY HAVE SP's ONE PER PACK......

    ANYBODY KNOW???

    WHOEVER GETS THE SP LIST FIRST PLEASE POST IT!!!!!

    IM GOING CRAZY!!!!!

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  • <<gemmy to go direct you need proof of store front pictures of all 4 walls in your store. picture of sign of store out front and street sign. i have this with all companies except upeerdeck>>

    Thanks, kuhlmann!
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