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Is this type of disclaimer really necessary...

fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
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Just don't sell/buy the cards if you don't want to. I mean really, what purpose does this serve? Hillbillyben is out of line IMO. Maybe it's me but this doesn't seem like good business to me. I won't be givin' them any of my money anytime soon!

Scott
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T-205 Gold PSA 4 & up
1967 Topps BB PSA 8 & up
1975 Topps BB PSA 9 & up
1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
1981 Topps FB PSA 10
1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
3,000 Hit Club RC PSA 5 & Up

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    I think he is trying to say that he is selling fake autographs. image

    You are right it is crazy to put such a disclaimer... but again I go back to what I said above. Discrediting PSA is a good way of selling fake stuff. Sad and pathetic. Plus, I didn't know PSA had a "judgement for $600k". I thought it was a settlement? BIG difference! I wonder if PSA may contact him about his disclaimer!?!?
  • chicago111chicago111 Posts: 310
    Seems like they're just trying to make themselfs sound more legit. Might work on some boob but most people who are in tha market for that ball would know better.


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  • fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
    Does anyone even know who this Hillbillyben character is?

    Scott

    Edited to add: I checked some of their completed auctions and it seems they've been using it for some time.
    Registry Sets:
    T-205 Gold PSA 4 & up
    1967 Topps BB PSA 8 & up
    1975 Topps BB PSA 9 & up
    1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
    1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
    1981 Topps FB PSA 10
    1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
    1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
    3,000 Hit Club RC PSA 5 & Up

    My Sets
  • CuseSteveCuseSteve Posts: 106 ✭✭
    "WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM FOR CONSIGNMENT " ??????? ........and he has feedback of a whole 128.....

    sounds like he is talking himself up!
    Always looking for signed Cowboys items from the 'Landry years'
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The ball is absolutely authentic.It comes with two certificates of authenticity. The first comes from Chris Morales, a court-certified forensic document examiner. >>


    Although I don't care for the conclusion this guy has come to with regards to PSA, I will say that Chris Morales is a well know authenticator and is used by some auction houses like Coach's Corner. Having said that, these authenticator types seem to be butting heads a lot over who is good and who is not.

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    Mike
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  • stormsurgestormsurge Posts: 858 ✭✭
    This whole lawsuit thing is getting out of control IMHO.. so I called the court to try to have transcripts of the trial mailed to me so I could see what was really said. Here is the info that I have found out so far:

    You can visit the Civil Business Office, 2nd Floor in the Hall of Justice in San Diego and tell them you would like to see the available trial minutes from 01/07 to 01/27/05. Make sure you reference trial #GIC815119. You can have them copied for .50 cents per page. From what I understand these give you an overview of what occurred in court on that date.

    I'm trying to contact the court reporter for the case and see if I can get copies of the transcripts on the days that testimony was taken but she is in court right now. I'll provide more info after I talk to her.

    One thing that I did find out is that the case has been settled not lost as described in the linked eBay auction.
  • WhaleWhale Posts: 73 ✭
    They say the ball is authentic, but what about the signature. An authentic single signed Clemente Ball is worth a few thousand. What can I get for $404?
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They say the ball is authentic, but what about the signature. An authentic single signed Clemente Ball is worth a few thousand. What can I get for $404? >>


    Good question
    Many people probably have never heard of Morales since he is not connected with GAI or PSA e.g. To add to the problem is the fact that the auto is smudged and not signed on the sweet spot.

    your friend
    Mike
    Mike
  • easttexascardsandgameseasttexascardsandgames Posts: 550
    I don't teven think the ball is authentic, just something about it does not lead me to think it was made before 1972 or 1990 for that matter.

    Just like the other day on Ebay I saw a seller selling a 2003 Dale Earnhardt Sr. signed regular issue card. It has been pulled by Ebay.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am hereby announcing in this thread that I will no longer be buying or selling NGS graded cards. I have switched my business over to PSG (Pogo Stick Grading) graded cards that has the honorable and trusted A. E. Neuman as head grader, president, secretary, and janitor.

  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    The auction is removed.....poooffff

    Heh
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  • fsjeterfsjeter Posts: 1,390
    That one is gone but all their other auctions are still there and are using the same disclaimer bashing PSA. image

    Scott
    Registry Sets:
    T-205 Gold PSA 4 & up
    1967 Topps BB PSA 8 & up
    1975 Topps BB PSA 9 & up
    1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
    1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
    1981 Topps FB PSA 10
    1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
    1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
    3,000 Hit Club RC PSA 5 & Up

    My Sets
  • stormsurgestormsurge Posts: 858 ✭✭
    Not that anyone is interested but I talked to the court reporter this afternoon and she advised it would cost $3,000 for the complete trial transcipt image Maybe that is why no one has a copy yet!
  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
    Call the lawyers, and ask if they've gotten a transcript of any part of it and if they'll let you have a copy for the price of photocopies. They aren't really supposed to do that, and will probably say no anyway, but it's worth a try. They might also be willing to share deposition transcripts, if any exist. Also, depending on whether it was heard before a magistrate, there may be audiotapes available for listening.
    "Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."image
  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not that anyone is interested but I talked to the court reporter this afternoon and she advised it would cost $3,000 for the complete trial transcipt image Maybe that is why no one has a copy yet! >>


    I'm actually surprised it's that low. Court reporters make money on the transcripts they produce, even if they work for the government full-time. In general, they charge $2.50 - $7.50 per page for a transcript. All the transcripts for a trial could easily run well over $3,000.

    Tabe
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