Toned Frankie questions
SanctionII
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After viewing Russ's post about the two toned Frankie's (and after wiping the drool off my chin) I got to thinking about toned Frankie's.
Even though Frankies can be fugly, I know that many forumites (me included) like Frankies, especially toned MS examples. I also know that mint set toned coins for 1948, 1949 and 1951-1958 exist in larger quantity, due to mint packaging, than toned coins for 1950 and 1959-1963 (I understand that these coins are album toned and exist in smaller quantity than their mint set toned cousins).
Have any of you Frankie fans ever assembled a complete MS Frankie set where all 35 coins are toned? If so, please give details (how long to assemble, how much, grades, pictures, do you still have it, etc.). If not, have you ever seen such a set or heard of one.
Finally, some proof Frankies (brilliant, Cam or Dcam) are toned. Has anyone ever assembled a complete toned proof Frankie set? If so give us details. If not have you seen or heard of such a set.
Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks, SanctionII.
Even though Frankies can be fugly, I know that many forumites (me included) like Frankies, especially toned MS examples. I also know that mint set toned coins for 1948, 1949 and 1951-1958 exist in larger quantity, due to mint packaging, than toned coins for 1950 and 1959-1963 (I understand that these coins are album toned and exist in smaller quantity than their mint set toned cousins).
Have any of you Frankie fans ever assembled a complete MS Frankie set where all 35 coins are toned? If so, please give details (how long to assemble, how much, grades, pictures, do you still have it, etc.). If not, have you ever seen such a set or heard of one.
Finally, some proof Frankies (brilliant, Cam or Dcam) are toned. Has anyone ever assembled a complete toned proof Frankie set? If so give us details. If not have you seen or heard of such a set.
Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks, SanctionII.
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Russ, NCNE
Try this post there is plenty of eye candy................
I would show you my set but unfortunately I deleted those picture files from the upload box.
Two replies to my post so far,...................... lots of pictures of toned frankies (I have had to get another dry towel since the first one is filled with drool),............................. however, not a single answer to any of my questions.
What's up with that??????????????
I have a complete set of toners. Actually, I put together three sets, have two left. Started in the late 80s, it took me 10 years before I could say the set was complete. Every once in while, I pick off an upgrade, got one in the Koshkarian sale last year. The #1 set is all 66 and 67.
I know of two other sets put away back in the 80s by dealers of Franklins, far as I know they're still tucked away.
The toughest dates I have found to come attractively toned are 48D, 49D, 50D, 61, and 61D.
My set is probably about 75% toned.
You can beat the bushes for years to accomplish this.
Some of my later dates have decent rim toning from album storage.
This can all be complicated by demanding High grades in FBL, which can narrow your the field.
That is why I don't have a complete FBL set. I went with eye appeal over grade/FBL, more so sacrificing the FBL.
It's a 1948-D. The 48-D is in the top five toughest in finding attractively toned pieces. The typical mint set piece is toned an unattractive brown, yellow, many times with hazing. Luster tends to be subdued. I've seen a few mint sets where the 48-D toned a mottled gold and green, and for the date is quite attractive. You might have better luck trying to find a piece tucked away in folder.
This 1948-D has absolutely blazing luster that screams through the toning. You can hear it through the holder.
Still working on my photo skills. I'm a computer/camera juvenile.
I've heard of you for years, and that is a sweet 48-D, and one of the very few I've seen with really nice color.
Now, You will have to post more pics because I've always wondered what your collection looked like.
I am working on a toned gem proof set. Actually, the set has become an afterthought. Just like it is with toned Morgans for me, whenever I see a beautifully toned gem proof Franklin at a not unreasonable price, I try to acquire it regardless of date.
These pieces are surprisingly scarce. The next time you go to a regional show, just try to find one. I bet you can't.
Lots of replies to my thread are popping up all over the place. Thanks forumites.
I mentioned this in a long ago post but I will bring it up again. I am working on a raw cameo proof franklin set in a Capital holder. It is complete and I am now in upgrade mode. In 2003 I was in Denver and stopped by Rocky Mountain Coins on south Broadway. While there I found a 1951 proof set in an old style holder (like a Dansco album page with two plastic covers, but thinner and with only five holes, one for each denomination issued for the year). I looked at the set and saw that the half was a cameo. However it had toned on both sides of the coin. The toning was heavy and was purple, yellow and other colors. It looked wild and vibrant. I bought the set and thought about whether to dip the half.
In the end I caved in and dipped the half. A blast white cameo was the result and it now resides in my cameo proof set.
As time has passed I think about the coin and remember the toning. I do not regret the dip since it fits into my goal of putting together a balst white cameo proof frankiln set. However, it could have been the first coin in a toned proof cameo set and I could have looked for an untoned 1951 cameo. Can't turn back the clock anyway so I won't let it bother me.