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POLL: Which image do you think is better?

K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
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Image A:

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Image B:

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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    A is better (I just got back from the eye doctor and she asked me similar questions)---------------BigE
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  • RADRAD Posts: 287
    Image A appears to be slighty better focused (esp around her ear and hair) and does show defects slighty better. The reflection off her upper lip and the fields is a little more distracting, although IMO "worth it"
    RAD
  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
    A is much better IMO. Is the B photo shot thru angled glass or defused lights ? image
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  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    The reflectance and color seem better in image B, but it appears to have some camera shake. Some of the highlights are blown out on image A, but the focus is better. The lighting appears uneven in both.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Eric

    i'm on a 19 inch monitor and the coin doesn't fit inside the screen, so i'd say neither one is comfortable for me to view and therefori don't care for either. a picture at half the size would be better, for me at least.

    al h.image
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Well then keets, you need to set your resolution to what a 19 inch monitor should have. Most 19 inch LCDs recommend 1280x1024. That is what I'm running and it fits in my screen.
  • vega1vega1 Posts: 941 ✭
    A if I'm buying it
    B if I own it
    image

    I voted for A
  • GoYankeesGoYankees Posts: 1,025
    Eric, I like Image A.

    Looks more natural and the marks show up clearer. Luster shows better as well.

    What type of camera and lighting did you use?
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  • RyanaRyana Posts: 247
    A is sharper and shows the details better but it almost looks too "harsh" if you follow me. The fields almost seem to be in better focus in image B.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree wtih Vega. A is harsher and more revealing of minor contact marks. B is a softer image showing fewer imperfections.

    Stuart

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Eric, I like Image A.

    Looks more natural and the marks show up clearer. Luster shows better as well.

    What type of camera and lighting did you use? >>



    I'm using a copy stand with six Sylvania Daylight Plus bulbs with a total of 300w. These images were shot with two different cameras, in the same setup. I'll reveal everything when there are more votes this evening.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    I'll bet B looks more like the coin in person
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    A
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Both images look OK as far as color and lighting and such.

    Image A looks MUCH sharper. Better focused all over, and the luster in the intricate parts of the hair definitely are more eye-catching in image A.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A looks like the "sharper" image and more representative of what the coin would look like in hand
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Bit of glare on the second image. Makes for less contrast and thus worse look.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wut relayer sed. I will bet that looking at the bit o color on the edge in front of her eye pic B looks more like the real coin than A does. I like the one that looks most like the real thing.
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  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Eric,

    I like A, more in focus, sharper details.

    Though I like the colors in B., I wondered about the angled glass method also.image





    Herb



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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Herb, all the lighting is the same on both images. Only difference is they were shot with different cameras.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Image A was taken with a Nikon 8800. Image B was taken with a Nikon D70. Obviously, there is a steep learning curve with the D70. I had to buy the D70 because of the interchangable lens capibility. I've got a new contract to do image boards, this time with components mounted on them, and the 8800 wasn't going to work because of how close the lens has to be to the object. The D70 allows the camera to be 24-36 inches away from the object with the sigma 105mm macro lens. I'll try this again with another coin once I get done fine tuning the settings.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>The reflectance and color seem better in image B, but it appears to have some camera shake. Some of the highlights are blown out on image A, but the focus is better. The lighting appears uneven in both. >>



    No camera shake, it's mounted in a copy stand and I used the timed shutter release. I'm using a 105mm macro lens, and it is very picky as far as focus goes. I've been working on it all evening.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Larry

  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Are you running a smaller size monitor? By the way, there is a feature in Internet Explorer that will automatically resize images to fit your screen if you need to run at lower resolutions.
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Larry

  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've got my screen running at fairly high resolution. And I just figured out to make the text on this board larger. I'm running a 17 inch wide screen with large text and can see all images just fine, with favorites opened on the left. So I actually have room to spare.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    What aperture you running on picture B? Right side is in better focus than the left. Any tilt of the camera will be seen with this setup. It has extremely narrow depth of focus. aLso try running that "sharp" picture quality setting.
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    I believe that one was shot at F5.0. Of course I've shot about 300 images today fiddling with the settings. I'm getting closer, take a look at the dime in the other thread.
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    I also use the D70, but I use the Nikkor 60mm, f2.8 lens. What I find is that the light, the color temperatue of the light, and how the lighting is distributied is far and away the most important part of coin photography. I've made several softboxes - from white-white styrofoam, one lined with aluminum foil, one lined with wax paper, and one lined with a white bed sheet. Then combine these with different lights, different lighting angles, different light placement, and the possible combinations become huge.

    Specific coins - silver, copper, dark brown to black, to mirror finishes require different lighting and different lighting techiques. It is easy to get a good picture of a coin, but very hard to get an image that looks like the coin in hand.
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    I don't really care for diffused lighting and don't want to use it. What's really touchy here is the 105mm macro lense. The problem is that for a silver dollar, the lense has to be about 32 inches away from the coin, and at that distance it's really tricky. I'm going to see if I can get a lens that will let me get the camera a little closer. Right now I'm having to run the stand on the floor to be able to use the viewfinder.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I love that extra distance away from the coin, makes lighting so much easier.
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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>hey Eric

    i'm on a 19 inch monitor and the coin doesn't fit inside the screen, so i'd say neither one is comfortable for me to view and therefori don't care for either. a picture at half the size would be better, for me at least.

    al h.image >>


    Same here.
    Larry

  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    I stand corrected, just broke out the measuring tape, right now it is 22" from the coin. This works for silver dollars which are 38mm in diameter, but I'm going to have to get a shorter lens for the circuit boards, which call for 100mm, 150mm and 200mm sqares. If I used this lens I would need about five feet of distance, and I don't have that much on the camera pole, it's 48".
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>hey Eric

    i'm on a 19 inch monitor and the coin doesn't fit inside the screen, so i'd say neither one is comfortable for me to view and therefori don't care for either. a picture at half the size would be better, for me at least.

    al h.image >>


    Same here. >>



    Larry, in Internet Explorer, click on the Tools menu. Select internet options. When you get to the options, click on the advanced tab. Scroll down to Multimedia. The first item is automatically resize images to fit window. Check the box, click ok, then exit internet options. Close your browser, then open it back up. Images should now automatically be sized to fit your screen.
  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eric,
    My first post to the PCGS boards! I like the details (focus) of photo A, but I'd bet the color is more natural with the "B" coin photo.
    I like your cat photo too, looks like our first cat. We've had several cats over the years, including a mongrel female we currently have that is a beautiful Siemese Sable colored and very affectionate.
    Best wishes, Pete
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Hey Pete, nice to see you over here! Welcome!
  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Larry, in Internet Explorer, click on the Tools menu. Select internet options. When you get to the options, click on the advanced tab. Scroll down to Multimedia. The first item is automatically resize images to fit window. Check the box, click ok, then exit internet options. Close your browser, then open it back up. Images should now automatically be sized to fit your screen. >>


    Thanks. I found it and it was already selected.
    It's a resolution problem. The pic is just too big for meimage

    Larry

  • ibzman350ibzman350 Posts: 5,315 ✭
    Eric,

    You went and got one......goodimage


    Now let's see some pics.




    Herb
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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>Eric,

    You went and got one......goodimage


    Now let's see some pics.




    Herb >>



    I had no choice here, I've got a new deal for imaging boards, and I needed something that would allow me to get the camera well away from the board so I could light it correctly.

    Anyhow, I worked on the images most of the evening, here is my best shot so far of a Morgan.

    image

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