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Any AT/NT opinions on this Washington proof? (UPDATED with coin in hand pix)

Just bagged on eBay for a song (I have an image to maintain here, a 2-second snipe, to boot) ... seller's images. I, obviously, think it NT ... anyone differ? I can take it ...

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Coin in hand pix shot tonight ... (forgive quality, but give you a good sense of toning transitions,etc.) Any more opinions? (seller pix show color well)

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  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    Looks good cept the splotch of bright pink on the obverse throws me. Its a tough call from the image, if the colors look that vibrant in person I would say AT, but if they seem a little toned down (no pun intended) then its a nice NT.

    As long as you like...who cares...its still pretty!
  • I think it looks good.......very good congrats!!!
  • TonedCoinTraderTonedCoinTrader Posts: 2,765 ✭✭✭
    Looks NT to me, I have had some very similar to that and had them slabed at NGC, never sent any to PCGS.

    Scott






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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Looks a little funky to me..... so I would lean AT.....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    OK ... now for the most disturbing part. Only the second I ever have bought ... may you all have mercy on my soul (and remember, buy the coin, not the holder) image

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My first impression when I saw the auctions was AT, and I still think that. Looks too splotchy to be natural.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,974 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>OK ... now for the most disturbing part. Only the second I ever have bought ... may you all have mercy on my soul (and remember, buy the coin, not the holder) imageimage >>

    I was the underbidder on that one.
    If you'de like to own the Franklin with the same color/grade (and... same holder), PM me as I bought it last week from that Seller.

    peacockcoins

  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Fake'n'bake
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    I think the first coin is NT and very nice....second coin I am not so high on.image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • Pass !!!
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • Honestly, I believe the first one to be NT all the way. It doesn't have a regular pattern like AT usually does. It has some inconsistent spots that also lead me to NT. I like it a lot!!!!image
    The second one you can keep...and I like nearly all toners...it just looks weird. Maybe If I could see it in person.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Looks like an AT sulphur job to me.
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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    you guys need to wake up and smell the coffee, there is only one coin, not two. what you're referring to as "the second coin" is the original one Randy pictured, only showing it now in the ACG holder.

    funny how as soon as the ACG holder was identified the AT opinion gained numbers. that's what i call bias.

    al h.image
  • I still think it looks NT as I suggested before, but there is certainly good reasons for folks to be biased against ACG graded coins in my opinion.
  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784
    TTT since we have divergent opinions. Anyone else care to weigh in? It is indeed the ACG coin pictured in the slab in the later post ...
  • image I was going to bring the same coin and question here, didnt he have another one also? dont think it was a quarter though.
    putting together a MS 60 and up Morgan set....60% complete...otlher 40% probably take the rest of the decade!
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Market acceptable.

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I lean towards NT,and like itimage.
    Al
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    Let me correct myself: the first "picture" looks NT, the second "picture" looks AT -- clearly light and angle lead you to see them as two distinctly different coins.image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>you guys need to wake up and smell the coffee, there is only one coin, not two. what you're referring to as "the second coin" is the original one Randy pictured, only showing it now in the ACG holder.

    funny how as soon as the ACG holder was identified the AT opinion gained numbers. that's what i call bias.

    al h.image >>



    Al, you are right that there is only 1 coin that is shown in different photos, but in your haste to show "others" have a bias, you have jumped to conclusions again.

    I initially thought there were 2 coins shown AND thought the ACG one was blatant AT.....NOT because it was in an ACG holder but because of how it looks straight on.
    The first pic that Randy shows is slanted at an angle, and shown in a different light. It is very debatable for me whether it is AT/NT. Coin in hand would be needed.
    Now, with the pic in the 2nd shot, I would hit AT right away and run away. Reason is because of the look straight on and looks like Washington's head was spared the torch but the rest wasn't.
    That is the look. Not because of some "slab bias". But, that is the simple answer so I can understand someone jumping to that conclusion I guess.

    Sometimes in your bid to be contrarian or show up others, you really do jump to conclusions.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I still vote AT... too splotchy.
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  • I still pass, haven't seen enough of these to give an opinionimage




    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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