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Best way to list PSA 10s on ebay???

OK, so I have a bunch of cards(25-30), a lot of which I expect to get a GEM MINT grade on. Most of these are early-mid 80s baseball, basketball, and football stars. Not the big rookie cards, but definitely HOFers (85 ripken, 85 sandberg, 82 dorsett, 80/81 dr.j, etc...). How do you think I should list them on ebay? Should I sell them individually, list them in groups according to the set, group them by sport, or sell them all together as a large PSA 10 collection? I'd prefer not to sell them individually because I really don't have the time to package 30 cards and ship them out. I was leaning towards separating by set or sport, and maybe as a large collection (strength in numbers). Curious to hear what you guys think.

Lee

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  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    I bet you get 10 on less than 5 of those 25-30 cards.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,061 ✭✭✭
    P.S. Once you get your 8's and 9's back from PSA I would sell them individually. Good luck.
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    Out of 200+ pre-1986 cards I have submitted, I have received 2 10's. I have a very good eye for grading, but 10's are nearly impossible w/ the older cardboard stock. I'd be suprised if you got one or two 10's. 5 is being overly optimistic.

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  • While I agree with the previous posters, I would say that any amount of 10's you get should be sold separately. The only time I personally group cards is when they are either 1). raw, or 2). mid grade (7-9) cards from the 80's or 90's. And grouping with me is very rare.
    I will say that I will occasionally look for graded lots, but pass on most because 1 card of the lot is the one I want.
    Just my 2¢

    Ryan
    Ted Williams, Willie Mays, Tom Seaver, Mike Schmidt, George Brett, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock player collector
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    OK skeptics. I guess I'll know in 45 days or so when my first batch of 100 gets back. When all is said and done, I'll be submitting over 500 cards, most of which are going because I think they have a realistic shot at a 10. I've got a pretty good eye for grading, and tend to undergrade when deciding what to submit just to be on the safe side. For example, I'd be lucky to get my money back for grading a 1985 Topps Ryne Sandberg that comes back a 9, so I'm going to look extra hard for any defects on the card. Anyway, that wasn't the question. How do you think I should list them assuming I do get a bunch of 10s?
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    To answer your question, by all means sell them individually. It's not as much of a headache as you would think, and it's fun to track all your auctions at once. You will probably double your return selling individually as opposed to selling as one lot, because if there is a particular card someone wants, they will likely pay a premium for it. Total investment of the ebay fees, a box of 25 bubble mailers at office depot, and postage is not a whole lot. Remember that you are entitled to charge around $3 for shipping on those auctions to cover your expenses there.

    As for what the others have said, I regretfully agree. Unless you have submitted to PSA before and know what to expect, many find their freebie 6 submissions a shock when they first join. Use them to train your eye - submit a card that you think would get a 10, a 9, and an 8, and span a few years from your collection. If your grades don't come back as expected, look at the cards in the slab to try and find the flaws, and use it to make your next submission a better one. For your sake, I hope they all do come back 10s, but just keep in mind that PSA 10 quality cards are as expensive as they are for a reason.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Being skeptical is one thing, being realistic is another. I know you didn't ask - but if you expect 25-30 10's, you'll probably get 5-10. If you haven't submitted to PSA before, then I understand why you don't believe this. But, I have submitted many, many cards - examined under 10X magnification, under bright light, you name it. And, there is no doubt I can tell what a raw card will grade (for the most part) as I have been doing this for a while. Even with all that, 10's are a rare animal.

    Having said that, sell the 10's you do get seperately. Sometimes mid 80's 10's draw little interest, but if they are major stars from tough sets (86 Topps for example) you will do well. Selling them as lots will never get you as much.
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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I was a big grader back in the late 90s and 2000. PSA was the only service I used, and I would often get cards back that were graded higher than I thought they would. I look at everything through a jeweler's loop (10x mag., but not sure). It's not like I've had these cards for years and I'm just now grading them. As some of you know, I've broken several boxes and cases (more than I listed in my other post) of stuff from the early-mid 80s over the past month, and just by sheer averages I should get a decent amount of 10s assuming the boxes were in good shape. The 25-30 figure is based on my projected purchases over the next 2 months based on my budget and what I plan on buying; not just what I've sent in already.

    Just out of curiosity, how many 10s of semi-stars, stars, and rcs do you guys think a vending or rack case from the early-mid 80s will yield on average? I'm sure this question has been asked but I'm curious to know your opinions.

    Lee
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I think vending and rack cases are going to yield fewer cards that will grade 10 than a wax box.

    I've heard many, many stories of vending boxes fresh from cases broken to reveal tons of dinged corners. The flimsy box construction just didn't protect the cards well at all.

    Wax packs allow too much movement of the cards to expect much in the realm of 10s.

    I think people are just out to try and set your expectations realistically, so you aren't upset and/or frustrated if/when your submission comes back with many fewer tens than you thought you would get.

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