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1910 TipTop Bread Pirates.......

OK, this is gonna sound fake and wacky, but here's the story:

My grandfather (deceased) was an antique dealer along with my aunt and grandmother (still getting their antique on), and he specialized in paper and metal memorabilia from everywhere (stamps, sports, coins, war, etc....). Every now and then he would come across some amazing sports stuff that would cost him nothing. He had a knack for that. I remember once he bought a ton of Negro League memorabilia from a former player who needed the money. A few years later the Negro League boom hit and it was worth a fortune. About a year before his death, they all went to buy an estate, and inside a trunk was a set of "tobacco-looking" cards that he knew nothing about. however, one of the cards was Honus Wagner and it looked like the T206, and the cards were in amazingly good condition. He brought them to me because I was knee-deep in the hobby, I put them each in a screw-down, and I found out what they were. It was a complete set of the 1910 Tip Top Bread Pittsburgh Pirates World Champions set. The cards are in a safe deposit box and I don't have a scan, so you'll just have to take my word on the condition: The Wagner is a solid PSA 6, might get a 7 but I'm leaning towards 6 due to soft corners and 70/30 centering. No creases, tears, etc.. clean back. Everything else averages around a PSA 6.5 if you take out two cards that get a 3-5 because of light creases. I'm pretty sure this is by far the nicest version of the set that has surfaced, and there are only 5 cards that PSA has graded, none of them getting higher than 5. Not that we're exactly looking to sell right now, but have any of you seen any of these cards sell either as singles or a set? Have you seen any graded by other companies?

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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Damn Lee
    You will become a legend really fast at this pace!

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    If the Wagner comes back a 6, you can throw away the book on the card! Catalog has a 7 at about 9 grand but if this were at a major auction, with a 1/1 pop - well you get the picture!

    Thanx for sharing - and please do get us a scan if you can!

    your friend
    Mike
    Mike
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    I guarantee that you will not get a 6.5.

    And it's posts like yours that make the boards fun, for better or for worse.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    You might get a 6.5 if you wait a little whileimage
    I've seen these in SGC holders, they would start a bit of a frenzy on ebay, and I suspect there is a 50-50 chance someone from a large auction house will contact you from this post.
    I'm pretty sure Murcerfan collects them, see if he or Marz weighs in on this.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    A Fish Frenzy?

    If you got that joke, then you're my new best friend.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    I'll bite.......

    how much to make Gramps n' Granny happy ?
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    I also recommend that you grade them with SGC or maybe PSA ...ASAP

    as there are reprints which could fool alot of collectors. and you will undoubtably get more $$ should you decide to sell.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I had relative like that!!!!

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    Mike
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    I can't believe you fools believed that story...... Just kidding, all of it is true. I meant the avg. score would be 6.5, not that any card would get that score. e.g. if you have 2 cards, one graded 6, one graded 7, the avg. grade is 6.5. I'm shocked at how well you guys know the set as I've never seen another one anywhere (except a few on ebay that looked like they had been run over by a tractor). As far as selling them goes, it's actually up to my grandmother and aunt as their business technically owns them. I have been persuading them to get them graded, but they don't feel comfortable mailing them and I'm too busy to get to a PSA show. They said if/when they decide to sell, that's when they'll get them graded.
  • I hate you!

    I'll give you my divorced wife and my $3250 a month alimony payment for them forever.

    your friend,
    Bill
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    ahh, another phish frenzy bites the dust.

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  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    What's up with the Phish Frenzy? Is that secret code for "this guy's full of s--t"?
  • kobykoby Posts: 1,699 ✭✭


    << <i> and there are only 5 cards that PSA has graded, none of them getting higher than 5. >>




    I don't think this is true. PSA has graded every single card in the set and several of each cards.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    You're correct. For some reason they have the set listed twice in the pop. report. I only looked at the one titled "Tip Top Bread Pit.P." Sorry bout that.

    Lee
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Fish Frenzy is from the first season of Curb your Enthusiasm. It's what the old man orders in the retaurant. It's just funny if you like that kind of humor that's not funny. Sports Night type stuff.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Fish Frenzy is from the first season of Curb your Enthusiasm. It's what the old man orders in the retaurant. It's just funny if you like that kind of humor that's not funny. Sports Night type stuff. >>


    Mud
    Now there's a hell of a show! It's like watching one train wreck after another week after week! But then, you have to like Seinfeld and other sitcoms like that. Hey, that's what we need....a true antihero of the boards! image

    Stone
    Mike
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    larry david is brilliant.. i wasnt really a seinfeld fan, and i've only watched one season of curb and i thought it was great (i forget which season right now), which i have on dvd..
    ·p_A·
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Go watch the first season, I think it's the first episode, when they take Jeff's parents to dinner. If you've seen it enough, hearing her dad (good old Louis Nye) say "Fish Frenzy" is the funniest thing on the disc. Even on the commentary, that's all they talk about, and how for the rest of the season, off the set, everytime they ordered food they would call it the Fish Frenzy no matter what it was.
  • thats an amazing find! a psa 2 wagner sold offline for over $2000 not too long ago and ive never seen a complete set of these

    you may want to post your find on the network 54 forums. theres some very vintage hardcore collectors there with deep pockets who would love to know it's out there
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Wow, thanks for the info jwasserman. It's funny that when they found someone to get it appraised (one of the big mail order vintage dealers), they sent him some pictures of the cards, he sent a letter back saying what he thought they were worth along with a $7000 check, unsolicited. I'll see if I can dig up those pics and I'll scan them if possible.

    Lee
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