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1911 MS66 Saint...that's ORANGE PEEL.

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  • I'm not sure that's orange peel... can you get a close up picture of the surfaces? Mark has a great close-up pic of what Orange Peel is supposed to look like...
    -George
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    George, George, George...you doubt ME??? Look at the rippling under LIBERTY....That is orange peel.

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  • Orange peel or not~~That's one awesome coin. thanks for sharing!
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  • Wow! I just love that coin. I had a late die state Jeff nickel that had rough surfaces like that and was chastised for suggesting it looked like an orange peel image I've heard proof gold exhibits orange peel. Anyway your coin sure does look awesome! I just love it!
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Thank you both...image
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  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    showoff image
  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Bad dog!image
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    LOL!
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Buffalo struck by lightning:

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  • Ok, you're right Saint... image Didn't look closely enough... image
    -George
    42/92
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,310 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not the best pic of the orange peel surfaces but they are observable...

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  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    << Not the best pic of the orange peel surfaces but they are observable...>>

    Damn -- I wish you had not posted a picture of that 2-1/2 dollar. I wont sleep all night thinking about it.
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No photos handy, but many mid eighties to mid nineties clad Kennedys minted from severely worn (distressed) dies will provide the orange peel look.
    It's attactive, when the coin is of high grade.

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  • someone please define...
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  • Here ya' go .................. waaaaaaaaaaaaaavvvvvvvvvvvvvvy baby ! image

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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doug,
    That's the perfect example!

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    peacockcoins



  • << <i> Doug,
    That's the perfect example!

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    Pat,

    Nope, Sorry image It's in my "unusual keepers" box image





  • << <i>Doug,
    That's the perfect example!

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    Actually, it's not Orange Peel, just die deterioration...

    Orange peel occurs during the hardening process of die making... when the die is cooled after heating, it contracts. This contraction of the die steel creates what we know as 'Orange Peel'... Saint's is a good example, and you can also see it a little bit on CoinLt's coin in the upperright of the reverse... I don't know that Jeremy's coin is genuine Orange Peel or not... but it is generally seen on 19th Century coins, especially proofs, though the orange peel generally goes away after a short period of striking, or sometimes the die was lapped, and this removed the orange peel from the fields... Orange Peel will only be seen in the fields... if I can find mgoodm3's picture, he has a very good example of Orange Peel on a Proof IHC...
    -George
    42/92
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I figured as such! Neat coin.
    I just did a quick check on eBay under 2004 Kennedys, and... does this qualify as "orange peel" or "grape peel"? image

    Only in the world of eBay!

    peacockcoins

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    Mark's pic, and a link to a thread a while back, with some good discussion, when he first showed the coin and pics...

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    -George
    42/92
  • Ouch! That one looks like it was boiled in Grape Nehi image (the one Pat linked to on ebay)
  • A comment from the great Rick Snow, from the linked thread...

    <<orange peel is seen mostly on 19th century proofs. I figure the dies were polished (obliterating the orange peel) after about 100-200 pieces were struck, so if an Indian Cent has a mintage of 2,000, has 2 die pairs known, there will be 200-400 or 10% to 20% with orange peel. Of course, many of the coins did not survive in gem condition, so a gem full red orange-peeler is a real find.

    On proof coins with lower mintages, such as gold, orange peel will be easier to find. The technicians who remove hairlines from proof gold hate orange peel because their work is very easy to detect. Therefore a gold proof with orange peel has a good chance of not being messed with.

    orange peel is not used for non-proof coinage.
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    <<Earlier I posted:

    Orange peel is not used for non-proof coinage.

    Let me clarify:

    The term "Orange peel" is used on proof coins. There are always exceptions, since many tiimes proof dies were used for regular coinage, and MS branch mint dies could have been polished like proof dies as well. So the term applies to "proof-ish" coins. Not late die state coins, not gold coins with luster. In fact if you see cartwheel luster, there is probably no orange peel. Possibly a Proof-like MS $3 gold piece could have orange peel.
    -George
    42/92
  • I'm still learning every day on these boards-thanks George. So is it a desirable(premium) property on a coin or just neat?
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  • saintgurusaintguru Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭
    Is it worth a premium??

    Well, it vertainly helps! It typically occurs on the earliest struck coins of a series, and the dies are sharp and fresh, so you usually get a very nice coin as well. As with any coin, the condition is critical, but in the highest grades it definately would have additional appeal...so the answer is "most likely"! image
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