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Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
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Allow me to add my name to the list of BBCExchange fans.

I bought an unopened box of 1978 Topps baseball wax last week, and it came in the mail today. My wife and I opened all the packs after dinner today - not a corner ding in the box. The box was in absolutely awesome condition (my wife pulled the Molitor rookie out of the first pack in the box), lots of stars (but no Murray image ), and not a question in my mind that this box was authentic, unopened, right from a vending case.

I'm buying another box tomorrow.

What a great dealer.
-Al

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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Steve is a great guy to deal with, and very personable. I"ve had nothing but great dealings with him both thru the mail and in person.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    which wax did you buy? The box directly from a case for $ 575 or the single boxes for $ 550??????

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
    Bought the $575 box directly from the case.

    Very sweet.

    -Al
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great! because I just purchased the same image

    I inquired to Steve about these and he told me I won't be disappointed. How was the centering on the cards Novocent?

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • RobERobE Posts: 1,160 ✭✭
    Steve rocks!
    Robert

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    My Auctions
  • Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
    Best unopened item I've ever bought. Not one corner ding in the box.

    Centering can't be helped - that's a printing/cutting issue. But I've bought lots of vending boxes over the past few months, and found lots of corner dings. Not a bad corner in this entire box. It clearly came from a case that has been sealed for a long, long time.

    I'd much rather open a box and find an off-center card with four sharp corners than open a box and find a perfectly centered card with a corner ding. Like I said, I'm buying another box tomorrow.

    -Al
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Like I said, I'm buying another box tomorrow.

    -Al >>



    I wonder how many Steve has. I know he has other sealed wax cases for sale. Wonder if he will crack another after we buy them all image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • RipkenRipken Posts: 559 ✭✭✭
    Certainly not criticizing any of you...we all know the thrill of the vintage unopened stuff, especially boxes like these. It's fun. But........I'm curious to know what you're looking for that makes it worth the price since you're opting to open them? Shop around and you can buy a VERY sweet set of '78s for $200-250. And aren't there only about 4 cards that if totalled up might make it worth your while should they all somehow come out of those packs centered well enough to grade 9? 10s are awfully, awfully tough in any issue. 8's in '78 aren't worth the trouble. Seems like a major gamble. Or am I missing something?
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i> Or am I missing something? >>



    Maybe the thrill of the hunt? Memories of ripping those 78s? Who knows what drives us all image
  • Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
    Good question.

    I have an almost-complete 78 set that I collected as a kid, and it's worth more to me than any box I could buy from anyone.

    But I decided a few weeks ago that I was going to shoot for a complete set from every year the Yanks won the World Series. I was already almost done with 53 Topps, 38 Goudey, and 61 Topps, and decided that I needed to take a break from buying all that high-priced vintage, to save my wallet a bit.

    At the same time, if I'm going to start collecting anything post 1961, I feel the cards should be sharp and new. I bought some 1977 vending boxes on Ebay, enjoyed pulling the cards, and sent a bunch off for grading. A few came back as 9s. But I was also disappointed at the amount of corner dings in the boxes. Two unopened vending boxes and one opened one, and I still can't put together a ding-free 77 set.

    That's a huge drag to me. So I'd heard a lot of great things about BBCExchange, and decided to try out a wax box instead of a vending box. I got exactly what I wanted - an hour or so of entertainment, a bunch of ding-free packs, and no worries about the packs having been searched.

    So yeah, I overpaid for the box - probably three times what the whole set is really worth, and I opened the box. But my goal is a complete set with 2,904 sharp corners. How much would I have to pay in $200 boxes to get that? Because I didn't get it with three cheap '77 vending boxes...

    -Al
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Al - I bought 2 of those boxes back in December, and I mostly agree with you. However, I sent in a bunch of the cards I pulled for grading, and while I did get a lot of 9's, and 4 10's - I also got a lot of 5's. Because of the age of the cards, the gum "melted" through the back card, and the card or two next to that, and caused very minor surface wrinkles on a lot of the cards I thought were mint. And, this was after I checked them over with a 10X loupe - just couldn't see the wrinkles. So, I totally agree - BBCExchange is awesome, and I loved breaking these boxes, overall the number of quality cards wasn't what I first thought. Better than vending, though.
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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭
    ditto the comments. bbc is top notch. i may jump on the 78 bandwagon and grab a box myself.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    These boxes vending? or wax? Al you keep alluding to both.

    Great to hear that you did well.

    BBEX is super.
    Good for you.
  • Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
    Steve, I'm comparing the 78 wax box I bought from BBCExchange to some 77 vending boxes I've bought elsewhere.

    However, I was doing it after midnight with three martinis in me, so it's possible I may have been confusing. image

    -Al
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    I also just purchased a box of 85 topps football from bbexchange. I pulled three elways and two Montanas only big card i didnt get was marino. Some of the cards have gum and wax stains which is expected. But I believe I may have a few 10's and a whole lot of 9's which isnt bad for a 90.00$ box.
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  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557 ✭
    Do they have a web site?
  • magellanmagellan Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭
    bbcexchange
    Topps Heritage

    Now collecting:
    Topps Heritage

    1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
    All Yaz Items 7+
    Various Red Sox
    Did I leave anything out?
  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496 ✭
    I've always enjoyed the packs I've gotten from the BBCexchange. Last week I pulled a Pippen, Stockton and Rodman rookie as well as some stars from 88/89 Fleer packs.

    70's and 80's wax has become my weekly fix as of late image

    The breakup value is actually really good for alot of vintage packs.

    Take for example the 88/89 set:

    On average, it takes 11 packs to make a set. The cheapest box that you can find will run about $450. That means you'll be into a NM-MT set for about $137.50. The NM-MT SMR value of the regular set and the stickers is about equal to that.

    Plus you've got the upside of 9's and 10's. And of course the fun factor.
  • RobERobE Posts: 1,160 ✭✭
    I've done 5 figures with Steve and it was all great.

    Met him in Chicago and Cleveland.I'm surprised he knew it was me when I saw him at the National.

    He let me hold Roger's Henderson RC that was on his table.And he wouldn't let me pay 39 cents for those 60s packs like the price said. image

    At the end of ANY day, it's nice to know there are people like him in this hobby well worth running into.He's all first class as a dealer and most importantly as a person.


    Robert

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    My Auctions
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Novocent, I expect my box in a couple of days, will keep you posted !!!!

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • rvcrvc Posts: 559 ✭✭
    novocent-i'm glad i'm not the only one opening up old stuff for the thrill. i opened a '75 mini box a few months ago that i had bought from bbcexch. same results as you and i couldnt agree more with you about the offcentered vs corner dings! now, how was the molitor your wife pulled?
    Bob
  • Love of the GameLove of the Game Posts: 250 ✭✭
    The Molitor was OC about 30/70 and the print smudge is monstrous, but the corners and edges are blazing.

    -Al
  • 1967topps1967topps Posts: 459 ✭✭
    Great that you like BBCExchange...but all these GAI graded packs. I don't know that GAI
    knows how to judge if a pack is resealed or not. Thanks to people with names like Ken and Clete.
    ebay:1967topps
    1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
    Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
  • brianwintersfanbrianwintersfan Posts: 3,626 ✭✭
    Steve is a great guy! image
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    rvc,

    What stars and condition did you pull from the '75 mini box? What did the box set you back?
  • pb19991pb19991 Posts: 271
    I've never bought a box of unopened from Steve but i've bought graded singles and ungraded sets. he is very consistently high grade in all his transactions. if only there wer more sellers out there like BBC exchange and Mickeys SC it would be great. Phil
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    Has anyone ever crack a 1978 rack case? I was wondering about the distribution. How many stars can on avg are in a rack case?
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it is safe to say that a even a 3 box rack case of 78 Topps would be riddled with stars. There is more than 20 HOF'ers in the set. In addition there are second year Andre Dawson Dale Murphy Bruce Sutter and so on. In just one rack pack the other day I pulled #20 Pete Rose, # 72 Andre Dawson, # 704 Whitaker Rookie, and #708 Dale Murphy. WHy are you interested in taking the plunge on one?

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    I just opened the 1982 Topps football cello box that I ordered from BB Card Exchange. It was delivered the day after I bought it...wow. I pulled on LT, two Lott's, 2 Montana's and 2 Munoz. Only two were gradeable however - centering always kills me on the 82's!!

    Regards,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    greg, can't be worse centering than my 78 baseball image I have pulled 3 Pete Rose in the last month and all were way OC. So I said screw it and went and bought one.

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • GATOR5GATOR5 Posts: 654 ✭
    Jay,

    Yes Ive cracked a 3 box before results were pretty good. No molitors or murray in 9. Many of the cards were riddled with surface wrinkles which I have found consistant with 77's and 78's. Now as for recouping your cash nowaday with the prices unless you hit the run wtih molitor and murray its going to be rough unless you can find one for 2250 or so. I paid 1750 three years ago when the bidding was hot. Did really well and got to build 70% of the set. The knowledge was great plus I still have an awesome razor raw set.

    Gator
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The baseball card exchange has a 3 box rack case up for 3 grand

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • GATOR5GATOR5 Posts: 654 ✭


    Yeah that pretty much the going price. I tried to do a huge deal with him last year but my funds were tight so I just went with the 77 vending case. Steves awesome great to chat with if he can find time. Ive been in his warehouse unreal!!!
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As mentioned early on in this thread, I have a 78 wax box directly from one of Steves cases on its way. May even come today I hope

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    The thought has crossed my mind on the rack case.
    Anyone want to talk me in or out of the decision?
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you have the money to spend, I won't talk you out of it image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • MeferMefer Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭
    1978 Topps is my favorite set. It is the year I started collecting cards. I think, price wise, you have to somewhat throw that out the window and focus on the enjoyment of just opening the cards. If you love the set, and have the extra cash to spend, I'd say do it! It has always been more fun for me to build a set this way rather than buying a set and upgrading later on. A lot more expensive, but a lot more enjoyable. I would be interested in reading about anyone's busts (not the chest type, the card type!).
  • rvcrvc Posts: 559 ✭✭
    jay i think the box was around 1650. i was very happy with the condition of the cards. most were near mint. nicest bunch of raw commons i've ever seen although there were many off centered. i have about 200 nm raw if anyone is interested. i didnt think they were gradable but they are very nice. the bottom card was always stained as expected. 1 brett-perfect except oc. no younts, no lynn's or rice's. couple munson's , 1 schmidt, lots of mvp cards. i sent in about 100 commons for grading and most came back 8's with some 9's. i really thought i had a couple 10's . 1 munson rec'd a 9. i had a blast opening up the box.
    Bob
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I should get my box tomorrow, and results will be posted image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • downgoesfrazierdowngoesfrazier Posts: 1,515 ✭✭
    Steve Hart is THE KING! Hands down the best dealer I've met in the hobby and for that matter one of the best people. His reputation is no accident. He works really hard at being the best. He's always asking questions, gathering opinions of his clients and acting on them. Also, unlike other large dealers, when he asks what you collect--he'll actually try to find the items. THE KING! No, I'm not on the BBCEx payroll. If he was a turd I'd say so. I am compiling a massive list of dealers/eBayers and forum folks that I will list later this year. The list will be divided into the Dogs and the Droppings. It's time there was an award show or dinner...seems everyone in every field has an award show...I want one, dammit! Congrats on the box and remember when paying a bit more from Steve...you get what you pay for.

    dgf
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whats up DGF! Good to see ya!

    Hope I'm getting this box today, I also have some racks coming image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    Dogs and the Droppings. That is funny. That sounds like a show from Bill Kurtis Productions. If you don't know who Bill Kurtis is, he is the guy from the show American Justice on A&E.
  • highendhighend Posts: 534 ✭
    i have to get in the bbcexchange love fest. steve is the best. my wife bought me a wax box of 72's from him last year. i was very happy with the product but one of my submissions to PSA was botched and the first time around, i ended up with alot of 8's.
    like it was said before you will pay more but it's worth it. also ripping 25-35 year old wax is a thrill thats well worth the cash. for what she paid, it wasn't a sound investment by any stretch of the imagination but let me tell you the fun factor was well worth it. also, i did pull a clemente that graded out as a 9 but would not look out of place in 10 holder.

    i would never by unopened from anyone but steve or mark murphy.
  • softparadesoftparade Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't mind overpaying from Steve at BC exchange. You know what you are getting, UNOPENED stuff image

    ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240

  • 1979COLLECTOR1979COLLECTOR Posts: 99
    I recently purchased a 1984 OPC GRETZKY PSA 10 from BBC, fast shipping and Great Service!
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