Home› U.S. Coin Forum
Options

At what grade do you think PCGS will holder this this Jefferson??

keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
in U.S. Coin Forum
It's a 1945-P DDR Jefferson Nickel, strong and unbroken luster, bright silver-nickel in color and non-Full Step. I figure MS64 lock with a strong chance for MS65 and wondered how the board felt. BTW, if someone can host the larger pictures I have I'll e-mail them.

Thanks.

Al H.image

image

Comments

  • Options
    clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615 ✭
    Seems a little weak on the reverse but just a little. The scan is a little dark to me so I can't be certain but I can see it in a 65 holder. Nice coin. I need one of those.
  • Options
    MadMonkMadMonk Posts: 3,743 ✭
    I dunno, but it sure be shiney! Nice coin.
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
  • Options
    BearBear Posts: 18,954 ✭✭
    I open the bidding at 5 cents.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • Options
    relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    If I submit it, VG10
    image
    My posts viewed image times
    since 8/1/6
  • Options
    XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    You want big pics...you got 'em!






    image



    image











    image
  • Options
    jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031
    image
  • Options
    ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭
    Look at the doubling on Monticello!!
  • Options
    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Ken

    you musta skipped over my much labored upon introductory sentence. it's a DDR, the right one, too.

    al h.image
  • Options
    fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65
  • Options
    ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>hey Ken

    you musta skipped over my much labored upon introductory sentence. it's a DDR, the right one, too.

    al h.image >>



    I saw that Al! I'm just amazed that it's similar to my Doubled Monticello!
  • Options
    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oh, OK. when i first saw these kind of DDR's i was skeptical, thought they were strike doubles. this is the second one i've cherrypicked.

    al h.image
  • Options
    RGLRGL Posts: 3,784 ✭
    Weak reverse strike and spot right of Monticello makes this a tough 64/65 call ... the way PCGS is grading right now makes it even more difficult. Nice pick ... 64.
    The Ludlow Collection (DCAM/CAM)
    The Ludlow Brilliant Collection (1938-64)

    image
  • Options
    solidsolid Posts: 2,975
    Al, yours looks like it could go 65 to me. It's a nice score in any grade!

    This is FS-030, a very nice doubled die similar in appearance to the 1939
    FS-022 "Doubled Monticello" variety. As the photo shows, the doubling
    is most prominent in the right side of "MONTICELLO" and "FIVE CENTS".

    Ken
  • Options
    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    Nice score! Looks 65 to me.
  • Options
    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,769 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin and it is 64 minimum with a shot at 65

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • Options
    GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭✭
    Someone sent me one of that example awhile back. It's nowhere near as nice as that, but the doubling is evident. I'll give a guess of 64, based on the reverse.
    imageimage

  • Options
    RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Based on the ones that I've made of this variety I would call this a nice 65. The reverse on these is usually of VERY poor quality.

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • Options
    segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    Tight graders.

    I give this coin a 66
    JMSCoins Website Link


    Ike Specialist

    Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986

    image
  • Options
    NickelbackNickelback Posts: 381
    Id say 65 image

    Any recommended resources for identifying a "FS-030/FS-022" etc...? I have The Jefferson Nickel Analyst" but that's my only Jeff reference.
  • Options
    RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Just to clarify...I call this a 66, but the question asked is what would PCGS grade it. In 66 it would be a pop5/0 coin...

    RELLA
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • Options
    longtimecollectorlongtimecollector Posts: 2,368 ✭
    GREAT GIVE-AWAY !!!!!!!!
    Count me in !!!!!
    Cam-Slam 2-6-04
    3 "DAMMIT BOYS"
    4 "YOU SUCKS"
    Numerous POTD (But NONE officially recognized)
    Seated Halves are my specialty !
    Seated Half set by date/mm COMPLETE !
    Seated Half set by WB# - 289 down / 31 to go !!!!!
    (1) "Smoebody smack him" from CornCobWipe !
    IN MEMORY OF THE CUOF image
  • Options
    solidsolid Posts: 2,975
    I'm with rella AND longtimecollector! image

    I do wonder about that little spot to the right of Monticello,
    though...from the photo, it looks like a little halo of toning
    surrounding a small surface contaminant (carbon spot).

    If so, it might be worth some conservation.

    Ken
  • Options
    morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    You were right from the beginning. A lock on 64 with serious 65 possibilities.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • Options
    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen coins worse than that in PCGS 66 holders. It's a 66 in my opinion. I'm not sure what PCGS's opinion will be though.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • Options
    FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    Al,

    I'm going with a lock for MS65... and a very nice coin.

    Steve
    U.S. Air Force Security Forces Retired

    In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
  • Options
    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that spot is quite exaggerated in the large photo, in-hand with the naked eye it's almost a non issue. until it was pointed out by RGL i hadn't even given it notice. i picked the coin up in a club auction and know the old'ster who consigned it, so it's almost certainly un-monkeyed with and an original coin put back many years ago.

    al h.image
  • Options
    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 17,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know very little about Jeff's but compared to my pcgs ms66's it looks even to them if not better.
  • Options
    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    As a comparison, here is my Ngc66 coin-

    imageimage
  • Options
    golddustingolddustin Posts: 838 ✭✭
    Since my fresh-in-hand PCGS guide to coin grading book says that a coin will grade no higher than the obverse, regardless of the reverse condition, and the obverse of Al's coin looks a bit cleaner than the 66 posted, I'd have to opine that it is a lock at 65 and pretty much even money at 66. As previously stated, they are getting a bit judicious at PCGS!
    Don't you know that it's worth
    every treasure on Earth
    to be young at heart?
    And as rich as you are,
    it's much better by far,
    to be young at heart!
  • Options
    jonesyjonesy Posts: 5,031


    << <i>As a comparison, here is my Ngc66 coin-

    imageimage >>


    That is sweet!! image
  • Options
    stephunterstephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
    By the way, I just got grades from Pcgs and the coin I posted yesterday crossed at 66. Population 5 with non higher.



    LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
    1 21887530 1968-S 1C USA DNC
    2 21887531 1945-P 5C Doubled Die Reverse USA MS66

    Date Received: 01/28/2005
    Date Shipped: No Date Specified

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Format
SpoilerCodeQuote
Heading 2Heading 1
Emoji
:):D:(;):/:o:s:p:'(:|B):#:*<3o:)>:)
Url
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file
Home • U.S. Coin ForumComment As ...