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Baseball HOF Complete Set

Currently, the set is only supposed to include cards from the player's career. However, the set makes exceptions on Babe Ruth and Honus Wagner, both of whose 1948-49 Leaf cards are eligible.

Should these exceptions be permitted?

Are there other exceptions that should be permitted?

Possible examples:

1951 Connie Mack All-Stars (Mack is eligible, no one else in the set is, and the cards are certainly comparable in value to many playing-days cards of most of these players)

1940 Play Ball retired HOFers featured on cards - Mathewson, Johnson, Speaker, etc., with people as newly retired as Frankie Frisch (retired 1937) included.

1933 Goudey Eddie Collins (retired 1930)

Here are a few more difficult to justify examples that some might want included:

1950 R423 (mix of retired and current players on strip cards)

1959 Topps Roy Campanella Symbol of Courage card (retired after 1957 season).

I'm sure there are plenty more examples of recently retired players being included in pre-war sets, but I can't think of any at the moment.

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  • My vote is only cards during their playing or managing career - no 48 Leaf Ruth or 40PB Jackson.
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  • jimtbjimtb Posts: 704 ✭✭
    I'm slowly working on this set with about 45% complete. Why all the exceptions? If it's supposed to be playing years, then it should be JUST the playing years. If a player/coach/umpire has no cards from they're playing years, that should be the only exception. It sounds to me like these exceptions were made in order to find a cheaper card.
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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    I'm really not sure why the exceptions were created. I doubt it was to find a cheaper card - a '49 Leaf Ruth will run about the same price as a '35 Goudey Ruth in the same grade, and there are a few playing days Wagners (1913 National Game, etc.) that are considerably cheaper than his '49 Leaf.

    I realized that 1967 Topps Venezuelan retirados would be another possible exception.

    Personally, I would do entirely without exceptions, as I think about it.

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  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    I would think the 51T Mack is a perfectly legitimate card to include. He was elected to the Hall as a manager/executive, and that card shows him as such, and his knowledge and experience of baseball is the whole point of the set. For the rest, though, I would think that the rule for only contemporary player cards should stand. If you allow for, say, a 1940 Play Ball Mathewson card instead of a T- or E- card, why not a 2004 card? That won't make it easier to complete but this sort of set should be hard.
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  • jimtbjimtb Posts: 704 ✭✭


    << <i>If you allow for, say, a 1940 Play Ball Mathewson card instead of a T- or E- card, why not a 2004 card? That won't make it easier to complete but this sort of set should be hard. >>



    I agree! I could complete this set in a month with cards that aren't ten years old. I like the challenge of finding cards during their playing days. Is it tough? Is it more expensive? Do Isettle for lesser grades?Yes to all of the above. But that's the fun!

    Players like Cool Papa Bell, or owners that had no cards made in their era should be the only exceptions. This way the set could actually be completed.

    My two cents,
    Jim

    Edited because I'm a lousy typist...
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