Wow,grades in, kicked my butt

misterR

Check invoice #9033567

The 74-D Ike going to NGC for the grade it deserves MS66 or MS67.

I guess if you grade modern proofs all day it makes the uncs. look really crummy.

clackamas

Sorry, you got crushed.

Russ

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE

1 21844792 1977 50C USA MS64
2 21844793 1999-D SBA$ USA MS66
3 21844794 1981-S SBA$ USA MS64
4 21844795 1991-D 50C USA MS66
5 21844796 1986-P 25C USA MS64
6 21844797 1974 50C USA MS64
7 21844798 2001-D NC 25C North Carolina USA MS66
8 21844799 1980-P 50C USA MS63
9 21844800 1974-D $1 USA MS64
10 21844801 1977-D 25C USA MS65
11 21844802 1986-D 50C USA MS65
12 21844803 2001-D NY 25C New York USA MS65

Date Received: 12/21/2004
Date Shipped: 01/26/2005

Russ, NCNE

nwcs

They have been harsh. I have a clear cam quarter that came back as non cam. No question cam, though.

misterR

Quick turnaround though!!

Only problem, I think the janitor graded these.

RVDavis

I sumbitted six coins and was not satisfied with any of the grades. These were coins that two dealers I know had both graded independently; these guys have been doing it for decades. Don't know what is going on with PCGS but something is not right there. Just my opinion

haletj

I'm terrified of selling an undergraded coin... and therefore terrified of sending coins to pcgs right now. I have tons though I need to send in in order to sell

Fairlaneman

Boy there is a bunch of whine going on lately.

My submission for Merc Dimes came back exactly as I had predicted to another forum member. It looks to me that people should figure out exactly what PCGS is looking for and then submit your coins. Untill you do this, save your money because for sure you will be disappointed. The other alternative is to send your coins to NGC. Problem with this is that they have got just as tough as PCGS.

Conspiricy on grades equals BS and the statement was not warranted. The guy is a whiner.

Ken

Louis

Why submit pocket change ?

Fairlaneman

Let me add one more thing to this "PCGS screws the Grades up Theme".

Showing coins to another person or persons does not mean squat. I do not care if they have been in the business for a hundred years. Unless they are in tune with the way PCGS or NGC gives out their opinion for the certain coin it does not mean a thing. Do you want a example ? If so just yell and I will tell you about the opinion that was received from a very popular person on these forums. Trust your own opinion that is derived through experience.

Ken

segoja

Those Ikes are tough!

Had a 1954 nickel in a PCGS 66CAM thought was a shot 67 CAM/DCAM. Cam back 64 no cam....go figure.

Guess that's how they make money. It's going back again.

misterR

Received some more grades today, this time much better.

Invoice #9032867

Coins in these two submissions were not that different.

Why the huge difference in the grades?

Why so inconsistent?

Steve27

1 21832811 1973 50C USA MS66
2 21832812 1971-D $1 USA MS65
3 21832813 2000-D VA 25C Virginia USA MS66
4 21832814 1977-D 50C USA MS67
5 21832815 1977 25C USA MS65
6 21832816 1979-S SBA$ USA MS67
7 21832817 1971 50C USA MS66
8 21832818 2000-P VA 25C Virginia USA MS67
9 21832819 1998-D 50C USA MS67
10 21832820 1999-P SBA$ USA MS66
11 21832821 1978-D 25C USA MS66
12 21832822 1988-P 50C USA MS67

Punscoins

Althought I think there is a lot of whineing going on, I think there is some sort of conspiracy to undergrade certain coins obviously. I think they do it because the grades are so obviously incorrect, you'd be foolish not to re-submit them. IMHO (probably wrong though)

raycyca

Mister R, please turn on your PM function or send me an E-mail to; raycyca@comcast.net. Those MS Kennedys are really tough to get thru PCGS. I bougt a lot of them from people still in the cellos. Picked out the best ones, and most came back as MS 64's or lower. Only thing better than a 65 was a single 66 that I picked up from a dealer raw from a set in a book. Ray

dorkkarl

sorry, but i gotta ask, why in the HE11 would you submit a bunch of coins like that??? that's just lining the pockets of plastic co's with your hard-earned $$$

buy a COIN instead!

K S

misterR

Dorkkarl-somebody has to make those coins for the Registry set builders!

It's a tough job but somebody has got to do it.

bigtonydallas

Most people forget the third side of the coin! I have noticed that my submissions to all the companies have have been more accurate since I have done this. I also submit as if I would get a coin back at the grade lower that I graded it. So say I think a coin is an MS66, I would determine if it is worth submitting and getting back an MS65! Then I dont get too disappointed!