VAMhelp: 1880-P Morgan - quadruple obverse

nesvt

This is an 1880-P Morgan.... triple date, triple/quadruple obverse stars, double/triple/quadruple obverse letters. LIBERTY is doubled on the right. I thought it was severely cleaned, but under a microscope it looks like a very pitted die. Ear and hair are overpolished and have heavy lines. About a quarter of the way down in front of the eye, it looks like it starts to double. There's a die gouge/scratch behind the eye. The reverse has some doubled leaves and WE is tripled on inside left.
My only guess was a VAM-41. I only have a description. No photos. Not an exact match. Any ideas?

jdsinva

I can say that LIBERTY is an earlier die of LIBERTY. Note how thin the letters are. This looks like the same LIBERTY that is found on some of the 78 rev of 79 Morgans. Remind me to check this when I get home from work. This is COOL!

DennisH

This is a new one for me. Some of your photos look very much like strike doubling, but others don't at all. Is there any new reference at www.ashmore.com ?

nesvt

<< <i>This is a new one for me. Some of your photos look very much like strike doubling, but others don't at all. Is there any new reference at www.ashmore.com ? >>



I haven't been been able to pull up any pictures on that site for several weeks. Too bad, because there were some excellent photos there.
I ordered all of the updates for the VAM Book and went through everything. For a while, I thought I saw a "check" mark on the second 8... like a 80/79. The coin is circulated and I really can't tell.
The lettering on the top obverse looked like strike doubling to me, but some letters are tripled. The right side (UNUM) looks tripled and possibly quadrupled. Maybe it's strike doubling over hub doubling.

Wolf359

I'm seeing an E Clash Rev in the larger photo, but no clash on the coin itself.

Must be your photo..right?

nesvt

<< <i>I'm seeing an E Clash Rev in the larger photo, but no clash on the coin itself.

Must be your photo..right? >>



I didn't notice the coin was clashed before. But yes, I do see a clash line under the N in IN on the reverse. Didn't notice it before. I don't see any clashed E under the tail feathers. I'll take a picture just in case.

nesvt

No clashed E that I can see.
Here's the N in UNUM, which looks quadrupled on top.

jdsinva

What photos I have for the v41 match your pictures so I think it would be safe to say you have the v41 coin.