eBay Coin Copy Rules Have Been Updated!

cosmicdebris

Just posted to eBay's coin discussion forum:

<<Hi Everyone,

My name is Lia and I am the new person responsible for the Coins and Stamps categories. I am very excited to be at eBay! Needless to say, I have a lot to learn about eBay and the very interesting categories of Coins and Stamps. I have been spending a lot of time in meetings and trainings and look forward to attending some trade shows soon. Please stop by the eBay booth if you see us at a show!

I sincerely apologize for the delay in addressing your suggestions re: our Coins Code of Conduct. Please know that we were listening and we did hear you.

The good news is that a revised Code of Conduct was just posted on the site! http://pages.ebay.com/coins_code_of_conduct/
You will notice in #3 under the first bullet point that we now require that “the listing title AND description clearly state that the item is a copy or reproduction”. You may also notice that a note was added re: restrikes. “Note: Restrikes are permitted for sale and they are not required to have “copy” or “reproduction” incused in the metal or printed on the paper thereof, if the item was produced or authorized for minting by the original issuing government.” In the future, you can find this Coins Code of Conduct through the "Guidelines for Selling Coins" link on the Coins & Paper Money category portal page at http://coins.ebay.com

At the same time, we revised our answer to the Frequently Asked Question, “I have a fake coin – how can I list it on eBay”, which is under the Selling Coins Policy at: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-coins.html There you will see that “title and/or description” was changed to “title AND description”. In the future, you can find this Selling Coins Policy through the "Selling Coins on eBay" link at the bottom of the Coins Code of Conduct page.

We hope that we have addressed your main concerns. Please continue to give us your feedback. Please also continue to report listings violations through the link at the bottom of the Selling Coins Policy page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-coins.html This is the same link that Lulu refers to at the top of her posting titled “Reporting suspicious listings & reminder of Board Usage policies,” which is tacked to the top of this Coins & Paper Money Discussion Board.

Thank you so much for your passion and interest in the Coins & Paper Money categories on eBay. We realize that there are some tough issues out there, and look forward to figuring them out together! In the meantime, I will check in on this Discussion Board periodically.

Have a great day!

Lia>>

elverno

<< <i>“Note: Restrikes are permitted for sale and they are not required to have “copy” or “reproduction” incused in the metal or printed on the paper thereof, if the item was produced or authorized for minting by the original issuing government.” >>



So, is a re-strike considered something that doesn't need to be identified? French medals of my period are struck to this very day using the original dies and by the issuing government. Nevertheless they are definitely not originals. It would be nice if they added something about edges since that's virtually the only way to tell an original from a restrike, and not just with French medals.

The same would be true of coins, though it might be enough to simply state that edges should be described if they are different from those noted in standard references.

Congrats BTW, this is a big step forward!

cosmicdebris

Thanks.

By the way THIS SELLER is one of the many that these new rules will effect.

spinaker2000

<< <i>By the way THIS SELLER is one of the many that these new rules will effect. >>



I saw that one too. When does this policy take affect??

cosmicdebris

NOW

AuldFartte

<< <i>Thanks.

By the way THIS SELLER is one of the many that these new rules will effect. >>



That guy's listings used to make my heart race ... right up until I found the word "copy" ...

Hope the folks at Ebilge put some teeth into this.

zzzz

Really what is another meaningless code of ethics or whatever eBay wants to call it mean if they DON'T enforce it ???

PLEASE ....

Ebays enforcement has a lot to be desired ... IMHO




It just makes me all twingly inside ...

tbirde56

My guess is that most in progress auctions will be allowed to finish and then the policy will be enforced on any new ones. An exception may be on ones that get complaints. That particular lot ends in less than a day and has no bids so ...
I'm looking forward to seeing all those obvious (and not) Chinese made counterfeits disappear!

wybrit

I think it's a good step forward. Again, nice job, cosmic.

Askari

I agree, restrikes are copies, whomever they are made by, and ought to be identified as such.

BigAlan

“Note: Restrikes are permitted for sale and they are not required to have “copy” or “reproduction” incused in the metal or printed on the paper thereof, if the item was produced or authorized for minting by the original issuing government.”

That just repeats what the "Hobby Protection Act" states.

cosmicdebris

Would you really want to see the word copy or restrike on that 1806/5 farthing I just picked up? It is actually a late SOHO Restrike. The rules state that if the original issuing party issues the restrike, copy is not required.

MadMuffin

Well, this is good news! It's about time the rules are changed so that coins MUST be stated as copies if they are. I just reported a new Chinese seller to Ebay for offering nothing but fake silver coins - all poorly cast, but people are actually bidding on some of them. And not a word about the coin being cast, copied or reproduced in the listing If you want a look at the coins just go here: Link - and check out his shipping prices by the way

Marcel

Aethelred

A job well done Bill!