ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE 1963-P DDO QUARTER FS-023? PICTURES ADDED.

TWODOGS

Common or scarce? CONECA says:

Grade, MS-63
Population, 9

I don't know if they are just talking about slabbed AND attributed specimens or how often they update the website.

Pictures...

TommyType

For what it's worth, being in an ANACS holder, and photographed by a nearsighted, jet-lagged photographer:

TWODOGS

Thanks. Any idea on the scarcity or value?

TommyType

Nope, no deep and meaningful insight....Only what the cherry picker's guide has to say (third edition):

Rarity: URS-12 (i.e. 1001-2000 estimated pop)
Value: MS-63 - $25; MS-65 - $50
Comments: Discovered by Del Romines. This variety is known to be found in Mint sets. Virtually all specimens have a diecrack downward through the outer edge of the eagle's right (viewer's left) wing.

I picked it up on a whim on Teletrade for $20 back in '99.

Tom

TWODOGS

Thanks TT. I appreciate the info. Probably not worth slabbing unless a 66 or 67, I guess. I found two. They might be better left in the Mint Sets.

JRocco

Can anyone explain what the population numbers on the CONECA site refer to? What is the difference between a population 1 versus a population 3?

pharmer

I think it's the actual number known to CONECA, at least that's the case in my listings. I tell James Wiles how many I found, and he puts it in there.

JRocco

I'm not sure about that pharmer, for example: the 1972 DDO-001 Lincoln is showing a population of 2, Heck I own more than 2 of them.

IrishMike

I picked up an anacs ms64 1939 dbl die obv for around twenty bucks. It doesn't seem to make sense to slab them given the demand other than to have the identifier on it.

pharmer

No it's a fact, that would be the number Wiles has personally looked at for the info given. Of course there are more of that one. I have about forty new listings, and I assure you the number I report is the number listed.

JRocco

I didn't know the pop numbers listed on the CONECA site were the # of coins that Wiles looked at for the listing. Thanks for the info pharmer. I have a question for you - Is there any way to know the rarity of a particular variety? For example, I have 2 Lincoln's here that Chuck (coppercoins) has identified as discovery coins- a 44P DDO and a 50P DDO, or a 1942P DDR (CONECA DDR-005) that Chuck says I have 2 of the 4 he knows exist --- I thought the population #'s on the CONECA site related to the rarities of that particular variety and if they do not, does CONECA show rarity #'s anywhere else?

pharmer

If it's noted urs-something, like in the lincoln rpm books. If it says pop, its pop as known to the person writing. There's a clear delineation between pop and urs by labeling.

Android

I have an FS-023 in an NGC MS66 holder. I brought it to FUN to see if I could ascertain it's value, and was told probably somewhere in the area of $100.

TWODOGS

Thanks everyone, for all the information. I may get the one in better condition slabbed and leave the other in the Mint Set. It was neat to find them, nice spread on "In God We Trust" especially.

They're actually tripled, rather than doubled, but the third image is a slight shift.

JRocco

Sorry about hijacking your thread J.C. Can you show a close up pic showing the doubling on the 63P tomorrow? I guess this gives me another variety to look for.

TWODOGS

<< <i>Sorry about hijacking your thread J.C. Can you show a close up pic showing the doubling on the 63P tomorrow? I guess this gives me another variety to look for. >>

Hey, this is exactly what I wanted. Some info on the variety and some insight into the CONECA listings.

Perfect!

I'm going to try and get some good close-ups in about 10 minutes.

FC57Coins

JC - you might want to get a hold of Marty - I think he had a few slabbed.

TWODOGS

<< <i>JC - you might want to get a hold of Marty - I think he had a few slabbed. >>

Thanks, but I just washed my hands.

DorkGirl

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<< <i>JC - you might want to get a hold of Marty - I think he had a few slabbed. >>

Thanks, but I just washed my hands. >>



you make me laugh, thanks

seanq

I picked one of these up a while back in an old PCI holder with some wild toning. Now that I think about it, I bought it from 'ernie'. Paid about $50 for it, but I've bought and sold white ones in MS64-65 for $25-30 in the past.






Sean Reynolds

TWODOGS

Pictures added.

JRocco

Thanks for the pics J.C., nice doubling on IGWT- you can't miss that split serif on the R

Tassa

I might just have to go through some more of those sets.

TWODOGS

<< <i>I might just have to go through some more of those sets. >>

Do you feel bad about selling me 10 unopened ones?

koynekwest

A relatively common variety. It has been my experience that around one in five unchecked 1963 mint sets will contain one. Worth $25-$35 in MS65. MS64 or 65 is the usual grade.

TWODOGS

<< <i>A relatively common variety. It has been my experience that around one in five unchecked 1963 mint sets will contain one. Worth $25-$35 in MS65. MS64 or 65 is the usual grade. >>

Looks like you hit the nail on the head. I found 2 in the 10 Mint Sets that I bought. Thanks for the info.

koynekwest

Two dogs-
Very occasionally you can find the DDO/DDR (2-R-II+1-R-V) quarter in Mint sets as well-it's much tougher to find than the 1-O-II we've been discussing. But the doubling on both sides is kind of minor and it doesn't bring anywhere near what it once did. Other commonly found doubled die coins from Mint sets are the 1970-D dimes (1-R-V; 2-R-II; and 6-R-I; the doubled die obv 1968 dime; two of the more prominent DDO 1971-D halves (1-O-II and 6-O-II); and, probably the most famous and desirable, the 1974-D 1-O-I half.
I've specialized in doubled die quarters for about 15 years now. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions about any of these. There's some real monster doubled dies in the Washingtons.

TWODOGS

Koynekwest, I appreciate it. I've been branching out a bit. My main area has always been Morgan Dollars and have a mental database of a couple of hundred of the more popular varieties to scan for in coin shops. I'm woefully uninformed about other denominations, however.