help with morgan vam

dwssws

looking thru vam book and updated lists see clashes for in,st,m,e on either obv or rev but can not find anything for this above arrows and right of eagles left leg. coin on obv is clashed lips, above nose not much anywhere else. rev is clashed mostly along right wreath, possible weak e below feathers, no clashing left side. no doubling or the like either side. coin is 1886 o. any ideas.

Koinlink

dwssws

koinlink thank you for posting pic in thread need to reread how to do and learn to take better pics

MAD4MORGANS

Michael S. Fey, Phd and Jeff Oxman's book "The Top 100 Morgan Dollar Varieties: The VAM Keys" has a few photos and some added description to the VAM encyclopedia if your coin turns out to be a Top 100 VAM1A.

Without addition information and photos it's difficult to correctly attribute your coin. However, take a look at these descriptions and see if you coin has the following attributes:

FROM THE VAM KEYS

1886-O "E on Reverse"
VAM 1A Clashed Die Reverse PF:10

-"E" Clash Mark from "E" of Liberty on the Obverse Die
-Two clashes inside right wreath on Reverse
-Seven clashes inside right wreath

Key Identifier: Dramatic clashed "E" under eagle's tailfeathers, to the left of the ribbon bow.
Comments: The VAM 1A is rare in strict BU condition, and can be found with either two or seven clashes on the Reverse.
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The VAM encyclopedia indicates the obverse for a VAM-1A should be III (superscript 2) 1- Normal die of III (superscript 2) type with closed 6.

The Minor Design Type for III (superscript 2) Obverses (pg 103 in the 4th Edition VAM Encyclopedia) indicates with photos..."Long wheat leaf below R (Close to R with weak lines), short wheat leaf between leaf stalks, LIBERTY letters thinner with shorter serifs on B and R. Long lines between cotton bolls. Point of Liberty head neck between denticles)

The way you describe the Obverse it sounds like you have a very interesting coin. I and others might want to see some of your other photos.

The feature next to the eagle's left leg might be a clash as well. This area looks like it would be opposite the hair/cotton boll area of your coin. See if there are any details on the obverse that resembles this feature.

jdsinva

<< <i>looking thru vam book and updated lists see clashes for in,st,m,e on either obv or rev but can not find anything for this above arrows and right of eagles left leg. coin on obv is clashed lips, above nose not much anywhere else. rev is clashed mostly along right wreath, possible weak e below feathers, no clashing left side. no doubling or the like either side. coin is 1886 o. any ideas. >>



Can you provide an image of the possible E below the tail feathers? This is sounding quite intersting!

RVDavis

I would like to see the obverse a little larger, be glad to help if I am able.

dwssws

thanks for input. have dr feys top 100 book coin DOES not have the 2-7 clashes on right wreath. only clashes on rev are on left wreath up to left wing. possible e is so light does not want to photograph with what i have available ( e is more of a ghost image if you know what i mean) only clashing on obv is above upper lip below nose and along nose bridge. have always thought it was the cotton bolls showing on rev. will work on better pictures of coin all features and repost

dwssws

heres new pics best i can do at moment next step is newdigital camera instead of this microscope

dwssws

also trying to learn how to put pics in thread




never mind came up as red x's try again later

Wolf359

Don't see an a reverse clashed 'E' in the photos sorry. The Top 100 'E' clash is REALLY strong, and unmistakable.

Your coin is clashed, though...no doubt.