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VAM book - An AWESOME purchase! Attention new collectors and those with small libraries...

PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭
Even if you not big on collecting dollars, read on...

I've been collecting coins for about 30 years now. I plan on dipping into dealing waters a bit within the next couple of months. I've heard so much about VAM-this and VAM-that that I wanted to learn a bit more. So, the obvious choice was to buy THE VAM book. I first queried you folks on this board and that cinched my decision. Now, forty-two and a half bucks later, and one brand new 4th edition VAM book, I am absolutely delighted.

No, I haven't read it cover-to-cover or even start identifying any of my Morgan or Peace dollars (which are all common, by the way). But, what blew me away is that the book holds what seems to be an untold secret. The first seven (7) chapters, over 130 pages, go over historical mint operations, die creation, striking of the coins, and much, much more. Other chapters go into grading, counterfeits, etc. And, of course, there's hundreds of pages and detailed pictures to identify virtually every major known Morgan/Peace dollar variety out there.

I cannot say enough about this book. My jaw literally just about hit the floor after I received it in the mail. I proudly put this book on the shelf next to my Breen books. If you even have the slightest intention of knowing a bit more about Morgan/Peace dollars or about coinage of the late 1800's or so, this book is a no-brainer purchase.

My personal opinion on books that are a must have in any numismatist's library (in order of which should be bought first when enough funds are present):

1. Current Red Book
2. ANA Photograde
3. PCGS Grading and Counterfeit detection (I really think this book is a must-have, and I have read this cover-to-cover)
4. Breen's Encyclopedia of Colonial and U.S. Coins
5. [If you like early proofs; this one is a must have] Walter Breen's Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Proof Coins, 1722-1977 (the 1989 book is a rehash with errata listings)
6. [The VAM book] The Comprehensive Catalogue and Encyclopedia of U.S. Morgan and Peace Silver Dollars

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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭
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    Okay, I realize that I wrote the above like I found religion...but no one cares to respond?
  • jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508
    Some of us are at work but I'll be glad to comment later when I have more time!image
    Jeff

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    Semper ubi sub ubi
  • ddbirdddbird Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭
    Nice...now get VAMin'
  • jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508
    Now that I'm home from work. . .

    Yes, this is quite a bit of good info in this book, even for non-VAMmers. Just remember that some of the VAM listings are out of date. Updates are available from Leroy Van Allen. Other works that supplement this book are the 8 TF Attribution Guide, 7/8 Tail Feather (B1 reverses) Attribution Guide, Hot 50 Attribution Guide and Fun in 1921. If you see any of these in your travels, you may wish to acquire these too.

    Can you identify the VAMs in my SIG? A hint is the two outer images are Top 100 VAMs and the 3 inner images are Hot 50 VAMs.
    Jeff

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  • Frankly I'm astonished at the number of Dollar collectors that haven't read the Encyclopedia. I think the lists of scarcest coins in mint state (even if outdated) and the wealth of other information is the only way to understand the current market
    and to plan a collection. I probably look something up every week, although I'm not particularly interested in the 1878 VAMs.
    Now order the video by BOB Campbell on "Detecting altered toning" in Morgans, etc. from the ANA website--and you will know more than 75% of the current Morgan buyers, and make some good purchases.
    morgannut2
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,092 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I do not have the 4th edition yet. I would rate Breen's book above the Red Book. The PCGS Book, the first one that was issued afew years ago is a must. The Davenport Books on European Talers was omittedimageimage

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • I agree with Morganut2 - not only do you get to know about each individual year and mint - but I love the sections on the minting process and how the coins came into being. Fascinating reading image
  • In case you haven't been here yet, you can find some more info about VAMS and save the Top-50 and Top-100 lists to you computer for quick reference.


    MORE INFO AT VAMLINKS.COMimageimage

    If I only had a dollar for every VAM I have...err...nevermind...I do!! image

    My "Fun With 21D" Die State Collection - QX5 Pics Attached
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    I also use the book often...and found out the hard way that one needs to be careful when trying to lay the pages flat.

    Great book.image




    Herb
    Remember it's not how you pick your nose that matters, it's where you put the boogers.
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  • A couple of other Morgan books you may want to look into for research and a better understanding on coins.

    How to grade US coins by James Halperin
    The John W. Highfill edition of The Comprehensive Encyclopedia of the U.S. Silver Dollar- large 1320 pages, but interesting info.
    Morgan Silver Dollars by Q. David Bowers- excellent reading source. The price guide is a little outdated but interesting numbers.


  • << <i>A couple of other Morgan books you may want to look into for research and a better understanding on coins.

    How to grade US coins by James Halperin
    The John W. Highfill edition of The Comprehensive Encyclopedia of the U.S. Silver Dollar- large 1320 pages, but interesting info.
    Morgan Silver Dollars by Q. David Bowers- excellent reading source. The price guide is a little outdated but interesting numbers. >>



    The Wayne Miller book is excellent also! image
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

    “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” Mark Twain
    Newmismatist


  • << <i>The Wayne Miller book is excellent also! image >>



    I keep trying to buy that book on eBay but always seem to get outbid. What's a fair price to give for that book in used condition?
    Jeff

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  • See I told you that the chapters on 19th century coin manufacturing and design history were worth it alone.

    Glad you like it. I've read it about 3 times.
    Bill
  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭
    I've saved off all the extra book/video suggestions to a separate file. I'll keep a look out for this stuff.

    Thanks a bunch everyone!!!!
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  • Hi, I have the Vam book on ebay for 38.99 brand new. I also have many other coin books. My Ebay user name is coinshow. My website where the books are a little cheaper is abauniverse.com
    Thanks
    Adam Paul


  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Prethen, I'm getting really interested in VAMS lately too. I'm thinking about buying the VAM book. I have several Morgans and I'm thinking about collecting them seriously.
  • Just opened my Peace $ VAM book last night and discovered I had several sitting in my collection already. All are getting attributed by NGC @ LB. It's like finding hidden treasure. And if you don't think Peace $ VAMS are hot -- a MS65 1922 Peace $ sold for over $1000 in Goldberg last night because of the VAM.

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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    Looks like I'm headed for VAM-A-LOT myself. Been finding some VAMs and it just keeps getting more interesting. image
    Wayne
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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭
    I couldn't tell you exactly how many hours I spent VAM'ing nearly 11 full rolls of Morgan/Peace dollars (mainly Morgans), but my wife sure complained a lot. Oh, and I did end up with some headaches. I no longer envy professional graders as a result!

    I attributed all of the VAM's I could "positively" identify and wrote the attribution in red on 2X2's. I placed the "list price" (from Coin Values) on the holder and I have a separate area of my display just for VAM's for coin shows. Essentially, I price no premium into most of the VAM's except for a few that seem the most "interesting" or on a couple Top 100's I found. I look forward to obtaining my next little hoard of dollars so I can spend some late nights (ticking off my wife image) and VAM some more.

    I still haven't read all the chapters in that book yet, but I'll get to 'em soon. It's one of my most prized possessions in my coin library.

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