I like DLRC, but....

ARCO

Is this coin really, "Nice and original"? Do those words get thrown so much as to now be rendered useless as true descriptions of a coins condition? Yep, I think so. Nice and original

John - I do like DLRC, but if a coin ain't original....it ain't. What do I know, maybe it is just weird lighting?

Tyler

P.S. Makes you wonder how that got past the "pros" at NGC. Someone there was probably up late the night before freebasing, or maybe they had open heart surgery and were jacked up on pain killers, but still felt the need to get to work the next day.

Shamika

How many XF coins are not original? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it accurate to assume ALL circulated coins in reputable slabs are original is not stated otherwise?

mrearlygold

It's not NGC offering the coin as "nice" and it does qualify as what the holder says.


That's about it.


Tom

Tonelover

<< <i> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it accurate to assume ALL circulated coins in reputable slabs are original is not stated otherwise? >>



It's very inaccurate to assume that. Actually, far more are unoriginal than are original. Sorry to break it to you like that but it's true. The grading services slabbed cleaned coins all the time, it's the level of cleaning that determines whether it will be a "market acceptable" product or not.

Coinhusker1

Looks like a bad scan -- the coin probably looks better in hand.

Thus, whether it is original or "market acceptable re-toned" is hard to tell.

Bear

Nice is such a subjective term. Some folks think bears

are nice, but were really not.

morgannut2

I agree with Tonelover. In fact I suspect many collectors haven't seen enough coins pulled from rolls and original mint bags to know an original white coin if they see it. Same for graders. A lot of toned coins are that way because they were stipped and improperly stored. An original almost white or lightly toned coin actually has a certain "look" that you can learn to see if it's pointed out a few times next to a stripped example.

dorkkarl

i do not buy from dlrc. too many of their high-grade coins have been ncs-ed, plus i absolutely despise their iditiotic "star system".

K S

etexmike

I have done lots of business with DLRC and with Heritage.

Two big outfits with possibly the worst pics of coins around.

There are a lot of folks on these boards that take much better pictures. Maybe they could work at either of these 2 places.

-----------

etexmike

EvilMCT

etexmike:

Ken

Shamika

<< <i> I agree with Tonelover. In fact I suspect many collectors haven't seen enough coins pulled from rolls and original mint bags to know an original white coin if they see it. Same for graders. A lot of toned coins are that way because they were stipped and improperly stored. An original almost white or lightly toned coin actually has a certain "look" that you can learn to see if it's pointed out a few times next to a stripped example. >>


This does not apply to the coin in question. The coin in question is a CIRCULATED piece (XF). Otherwise, I agree with you 100%.

Steve27

As a circulated piece the color looks wrong to me, hopefully it's the pic.

Barberman55

I bought one coin from DLRC, a 1900-O Barber Half, graded AU-55 by NGC. The image of the coin looked great, no major flaws, and the coin appeared to have very nice surfaces. I called up DLRC on the phone, I wanted to make sure the coin didn't have any hidden slide marks on the cheek, that weren't showing up on the image. The DLRC numismatist gets the coin, and tells me there's no slide marks, the coin looks real nice. I receive the coin in the mail, and the cheek has a huge gouge on it, that didn't show up at all on the image. What really ticked me off, is that the DLRC numismatist didn't mention the gouge as he's describing the coin to me. The coin is a tough coin in AU, the price was right, so I decided to keep the coin anyway. That was the last time I ordered from DLRC.

magikbilly

link

DavidLawrence

No question. This coin does not appear Nice & Original to me and I deleted that description. I don't know how that slipped thorught the cracks...

ER

<< <i>No question. This coin does not appear Nice & Original to me and I deleted that description. I don't know how that slipped thorught the cracks... >>

Scavenger

Wow, now that's what I call service- The main man handled the situation-

KentuckyJ

Unlike some people here, I find the DLRC star system helpful. I've learned to use it. I wish more dealers would use it. Also, unlike some people on this thread, I find the DLRC pics generally quite decent. They're certainly much better than some of the major competition. Forum members may have better quality pics but are you shooting the volume of coins DLRC lists? It's tough to make every pic perfect under such demanding business conditions.

In general, I like DLRC. I've gotten several nice coins from them. I bought this one recently and found it much nicer in hand than their pic:
1975 2 Leaves $1.00 PCGS XF 45

KJ