Did I just get lucky on Teletrade tonight ??

mercurydimeguy

Picked up this ICG 1970-S PR69 DCAM Washington Quarter that actually looks good for the grade. Heck if I can cross-grade it even to a PCGS PR68 DCAM (it does look DCAM) I made out. I'll have to look at in hand, but looks good so far, no?

I almost couldn't believe I won this auction for $9, plus $5 juice and $4 shipping for a total of $18. Did I do OK

The last PCGS PR69 DCAM sold for over $850 a couple of days ago at FUN -- I know, I got sniped with 4 seconds and beat by $20 -- uuurggh!! Maybe this coin will make me whole

Link to coin

airplanenut

You can't grade proofs from images, and ICG is notorious for overgrading moderns... you'll be lucky if it's a 68, and if it's a DCAM

zkcoins

Do you have a pic of the coin, perhaps we could look for you.
Zach

mercurydimeguy

Sorry -- I snoozed. Just added the link to the original post.

relayer

To estimate your PCGS grade, subtract 2 and lower it one designation level

zkcoins

<< <i>You can't grade proofs from images, and ICG is notorious for overgrading moderns... you'll be lucky if it's a 68, and if it's a DCAM >>


This is true too. You would prob get a 67, but its worth a shot right, you might get lucky. You could also crack it and send it is too.
Zach

mercurydimeguy

You think I should crack it out or should I send in holder with no min grade??

I think when they receive crosses with no min grade don't they automatically crack it prior to going to grading...this way I won't accidently damage the coin?

robertpr

Don't know about the actual grade but the cameo itself looks OK on the obverse, but extremely weak on the reverse. Maybe even too weak for cam at PCGS!

100proof1957

No Flippin comment !

Correction.

Cross over it wont CAM

Crack Out,it wont CAM

The reverse is too weak.

Russ

Sorry, but if the image is an accurate represention, the coin is not worth the cost of the submission fee. The reverse may not even be cameo.

Russ, NCNE

mercurydimeguy

I think you guys are being too critical...it's not stellar but it's not terrible.

Here's a fine example of a PCGS PR68 DCAM: Link to coin -- I'd accidently spend this one if it wasn't in a holder

Oh, and here's another lovely PCGS PR69 DCAM: Link to coin

....and another: Link to coin

There are nice ones out there...like the one I just lost: Link to coin -- but most of the ones I've seen have been hideous.

airplanenut

Unfortunately, Heritage has some of the worst images available on most of their coins--and these proofs show it... while the first one looks like it might have hazed in the holder, the others just look like typical Heritage photos.

Teletrade does a good job showing frost... and the reverse of this coin don't have it. If it CAMs, you'll be lucky... DCAM is completely out of the question.

Jeremy

100proof1957

Save the money,its no CAM.

I am as optimistic as anybody,it's not a CAM

mercurydimeguy

OK -- this one will just go in to my 4.5 year old daughter's box

But if she winds up resubmitting it 15 years from now and it comes in nice, I'll come and find you all...and give you H*&#L

Kidding...thanks for the honesty. I should've saved the $20 bucks for a few drinks I'm about to go have

I've been bugging Marty to make a PCGS PR69 DCAM for me but I think he's too busy across the street

Russ

Here's a comparision for you:

Teletrade coin:


1966 SMS Just graded at PCGS:


The SMS did not even grade cameo.

Russ, NCNE

Cameonut

I agree with the prevailing opinion that the coin will not dcam at PCGS. I do not think it will even cam.

I have a half a box or so of PCGS 1970 & 71 quarters where they didn't make dcam. Some of those didn't even make cam. I keep them for reference for the next time I think I have scored a dcam clad quarter from '68 to '72.

Another example of overgraded ICG material - I have seen it often. Cut you losses and set the coin aside. Maybe one of the ICG defenders will take it off your hands for a handsome profit!

By the way, I got lucky on Teletrade last night - I didn't win anything this time. My last coin was so horrible, I send a nasty gram with my return. The coin didn't even look like the picture!!

Sn3nut

I've given up on trying to get steals from ICG slabs. Last time I bought 5 ICG PR70 DCAM moderns from TT and cracked them out. Sent them in to PCGS and all five came back PR68CAMs. Lesson learned the hard way, but I won't forget it!

Russ

<< <i>5 ICG PR70 DCAM moderns from TT and cracked them out. Sent them in to PCGS and all five came back PR68CAMs. >>



That's par for the course with ICG.

Russ, NCNE