This Conder isn't pretty, but at the moment I'm pretty excited by it.
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Why am I excited? Because this piece isn't listed in the Token Legend Index, and I've been through D&H three times including the apendixes and the new listings three times and I can't find it. Both obverse and reverse dies are known , but I can't find any case of these two dies being mated together. I'll look a few more times and maybe someone here recognizes it, but at the moment it looks like a new variety.
Why am I excited? Because this piece isn't listed in the Token Legend Index, and I've been through D&H three times including the apendixes and the new listings three times and I can't find it. Both obverse and reverse dies are known , but I can't find any case of these two dies being mated together. I'll look a few more times and maybe someone here recognizes it, but at the moment it looks like a new variety.
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I like to think I know my farthings - but Conder tokens are fairly new to me.
I do collect a few - so I have a Dalton & Hamer - but I find it very hard to use!
How does this coin differ from (page 7) Cambridgeshire - Farthings - COUNTY - 38, this
seems to be "The rev. of No 36 = (Druid's head to right). Cornucopia and olive branch.
What does "See Not Local A. 36" mean?
Last point. If you look at page 205 Middlesex 1152, which has cornucopia and olive branch - do you think that your token is a counterfeit?
Hoping to learn a bit here!
Teg
I do collect a few - so I have a Dalton & Hamer - but I find it very hard to use!>>
You need the Legend Index, it makes D&H much easier to use, at least for the English pieces. It lists all of the inscriptions and all of the D&H numbers that that inscription is found on. Look up the obverse and reverse inscriptions, see what numbers are common to both and in most cases you're down to 1 to 6 possiblities
<<How does this coin differ from (page 7) Cambridgeshire - Farthings - COUNTY - 38, this
seems to be "The rev. of No 36 = (Druid's head to right). Cornucopia and olive branch.>>
Your right that might be a possibility. I do which they had a picture though because the description is not enough to be sure. Ther are four different cornacopia and olive branch reverse types seen on the Conder farthings, one with no inscription (Which is the center of a half penny die), one that just says farthing, one that says farthing 1793, and one that says Payable in London 1795 (Also the center of a half penny die.). So does Cambridgeshire 38 have an inscription or not?
<<What does "See Not Local A. 36" mean?>>
A. 36 refers to a catalog number in the 1890 Atkins reference and probably refers to the Not Local section in that book. (It doesn't mean the Not Local section in D&H because there is nothing like that description in the Not Local section.)
<<Last point. If you look at page 205 Middlesex 1152, which has cornucopia and olive branch - do you think that your token is a counterfeit?>>
I don't think it's a counterfeit and the reverse die seems to be a perfect match for the Middlsx 1151 die. It maybe, and probably is, Camb 38 but it would be nice to know for sure. I checed the Dr Sriro CD and he has not seen a piece identified as Camb 38
Thanks for the thought.
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