o/c qualifyers

ydsotter

Isn't it true that and OC qualifyer knocks the value $ and the registry weight value down 2 grades?
I found a guy on eBay selling a psa 9 o/c 1972 Aaron. He seemed not to grasp the oc qualifyer in his description... so I emailed him and asked him if he was aware that the oc qualifyer means it's not a $700 card etc... he was very nice but seemed a bit skeptical...
so, I thought I'd post this question and direct him to this forum and maybe one of you could point out the extent of the validity of this...
I'll find the link to the auction and post it also.

ydsotter

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phreakydancin

For the set registry, a qualifier knocks two grades off the card value.

In terms of $$, SMR value for a 9 NQ is $1000, 8 NQ is $130, but a 7 NQ is only $45. I'm not sure the OC would take a full 95.5% off the price, but I could be wrong.

wolfbear

This link explains the Set Registy rules including the 2 point deductions for qualifiers.

yawie99

A qualifier on cards graded 4 and up knocks off two Registry points, one Registry point on 2's and 3's, while a 1 is a 1 is a 1 regardless of whether it's qualified. The effect on value isn't so clear-cut, as there's a lot of variables involved such as difficulty of the issue, tendency for the issue to have the given qualifier, extent of the problem that earned the qualifier, etc., but it goes without saying that this Aaron isn't a $700 card. I don't know much about '72s, but I'd guess this would be about a 6.5 price.


Edited to add after seeing phreaky's post: I obviously know nothing about '72s, as this is more like a 7.5+ price. I would've guessed most people would've rather had a nice 7 than this 9OC.

ydsotter

Thanks for the clarification... I guess it also comes down to eye appeal. I once had a psa 8 o/c maravich rc that I liked so much better than my psa 7...
Hope the guy finds the link...

it also seems that a psa 9 oc might get a more favorable grade from an sgc or gai... that could boost it's resale value...

JonB

yeah, i noticed that same seller earlier in the week, he had a 72 Nolan Ryan PSA 9 o/c, and listed the regular PSA 9 NQ SMR price... basically a SCAMMER in my opinion

phreakydancin

<< <i>Edited to add after seeing phreaky's post: I obviously know nothing about '72s, as this is more like a 7.5+ price. I would've guessed most people would've rather had a nice 7 than this 9OC. >>

I don't do baseball at all... I just happened to have my complimentary SMR still close at hand

jrdolan

OK, this time I'm gonna resist dragging out 1953 Topps Ed Mathews PSA 9 (oc). It really is a matter of eye appeal and the criteria of the person looking at it. Some people like perfect mint corners and perfect printing/surface more than perfect centering.

The registry knocks off 2 points for any qualifier, but the market does not necessarily do the same. Depending on the degree of (oc) and overall appearance, PSA 9 (oc) might sell for almost PSA 8 money. I sold a '61 Mantle PSA 9 (oc) for an amount that was much closer to 8 than 7. It had that kind of eye appeal, even though it didn't meet centering criteria for 9 Mint.

phreakydancin

Logically speaking, if the card has the centering of an 8, it should go in the high-8 range because that is a really nice 8. If the centering is way off, it may go for less than a 7.

LordThanos1969

While an O/C qualifier definitely has a negative impact on the price of a card, there is no firm agreement on the magnitude of that impact. Like a previous poster stated, I think it depends on the card itself and the tendencies particular to the card and the year of issue. My favorite example is the 1969/70 Topps Basketball Checklist card (#99). This card is almost always off-center to one degree or another and grades for 69/70 cards above 8 are very rare, so I feel a 9 O/C should be considered superior to a PSA 7 and, correspondingly, should also pull a higher price.

ranger63

there was a guy selling the same cards (72T ryan and aaron) about a week or so ago with both auction tiltes saying the same as these (Rare $$$ card). when i emailed him he said he had no idea what oc was but he knew smr. hard to believe.

CoachTom

I have always felt that the O/C qualifier was a way to grade the card for the collectors that like sharp corners. Some people like perfect centering, and some like perfect corners. The O/C states the card is of "9" quality on corners, surface, presentation, but not the centering. Some of the other grading companies that break down the grades would identify it there.

CoachTom

highend

i think the O/C qualifer should be weighed on a case by case basis. a 72 aaron in psa 8 will usually be a very nice card and it's very affordable so why settle for a nine o/c?
on the other hand, a 52 mathews in psa 8 will always sell for ALOT more than a 9 o/c of the same card, to take it a step further, a well centered psa 7 could likely sell for a considerable amount more than a 9 o/c, in this case one may have to settle for a 9 o/c.

jimtb

Personally, I won't buy off-center cards. It's an eye appeal thing with me. I'd rather have a soft corner, than an OC. Just my preference.