Darksiders & Lightsiders ?
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Hi everyone,
I am a new member on this forum and just wanted to say "hello" and introduce myself a bit.
I am a 37 years old male, collecting German Empire coins and I live in Germany. So please excuse my bad English.
I found this very interesting forum a few days ago. After reading several threads, one thing is confusing me. There are two words/groups of collectors?
Darksiders and Lightsiders, could someone please explain me, what that means? And what am I, Darksider or Lightsider?
I also wanted to mention, if somebody needs help for translation from German into English, or informations about German coins, please let me know, I will gladly do my best.
Udo
I am a new member on this forum and just wanted to say "hello" and introduce myself a bit.
I am a 37 years old male, collecting German Empire coins and I live in Germany. So please excuse my bad English.
I found this very interesting forum a few days ago. After reading several threads, one thing is confusing me. There are two words/groups of collectors?
Darksiders and Lightsiders, could someone please explain me, what that means? And what am I, Darksider or Lightsider?
I also wanted to mention, if somebody needs help for translation from German into English, or informations about German coins, please let me know, I will gladly do my best.
Udo
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You are a darksider. Lightside is US coins, greyside is Canadian coins and darkside is every place else.
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A darksider collects world coins, a lightsider collects U.S. coins.
But that is over here in the U.S.
What that makes you is--------
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So if understand correct, a darksider collects world-coins, but I am collecting German coins only!
But however, I think I fell good in the darksider section.
@Darkhorse, I live about 70km southern the city, where you bought that beautiful medal.
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I spent 4 years in Hanau Germany, I must say Germany is one beautiful Country, I would not mind going back for a few more years.
Well, welcome to the forum and be sure to keep us updated on how your collection progresses
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Hey what is a collector that collects both light and dark? Anybody?
<< <i>Welcome Udo.
Hey what is a collector that collects both light and dark? Anybody? >>
Dunno but i collect both.
<< <i>what is a collector that collects both light and dark? >>
A bi-sider?
<< <i>Hey what is a collector that collects both light and dark? Anybody? >>
Mulatto-sider?
-JamminJ
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<< <i>Welcome Udo.
Hey what is a collector that collects both light and dark? Anybody? >>
Dunno but i collect both. >>
I see you've found that new interest you were looking for.
many thanks to all for your friendly welcome.
What I am still wondering about is, why US-coin collectors are lightsiders, collectors of Canadian coins are greysiders, and others/Worldcoin-collectors are called darksiders.
It also seems to me that there are some misunderstandings/differences between light- and darksiders, or am I wrong?
And here is a nice coin of my collection:
I have tried to show the cartwheel luster of the coin on photographs for several times, but I am still dissatisfied with the results.
On the pictures you see a 5 Mark coin, strucked in Dresden in the year 1902 to commemorate the death of King Albert. Albert of Saxony ruled from Oct.29.1873 to Jun.19.1902
If you ask me, I'd label you a German Lightsider. How's that?
Here is a picture of a proof 3-mark I used to have. Unfortunately my cheap scanner did not capture the mirrors or cameo contrast on this coin. It was stunning.
Shep
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I see you've found that new interest you were looking for.
Eventually!
Been dabbling in English/British for so long now i've become insensitive to most of it, it's lost the 'wow' 'i can get a whole set of these' factor.
I still collect English medieval coins and Charles II sixpences by date, plus Washington Quarters.
History is what pulls me into collecting coins (rather than design), be that good history, or history from the darkest period ever imaginable... so i put my Mary Tudor type set on hold (i'll try that some time in the future), but coins of Nazi Germany have far more history and history reflected in the coinage in more ways than one than any British coin of the period could ever have. British coins of the 20th century are boring as is the history. As is all British history after 1660, totally dull and totally tediously boring.
Give me the 12th-16th centuries anyday and you'd probably not be surprised by how much the Third Reich has in common with medieval England, actually quite alot.
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<< <i>What I am still wondering about is, why US-coin collectors are lightsiders, collectors of Canadian coins are greysiders, and others/Worldcoin-collectors are called darksiders.
It also seems to me that there are some misunderstandings/differences between light- and darksiders, or am I wrong? >>
Most US collectors of US coins have very narrow focuses and the only thing they understand is usually the commonly encountered 20th century US coinage. If they venture away from those, even into US tokens, or even their own colonial issues they find themselves to be "completely in the dark" about what they have. Hence anything that is non-US coinage is Darkside material. Canada, being immediately next door, is sometimes slightly familiar to the average US collector. After all sometimes a Canadian cent or five cent is encountered in circulation. So Canada is slightly less dark or "Grey" so Greyside material. Well if you have Darside and Greyside material, then obviously the US coinage must be Lightside material. Or as it is sometimes expressed because it "tastes great, less (full)filling", Liteside material.
That medal of torture is amazing!
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Conder101, now I see, many thanks for the explanation. We have a term for that ("completely in the dark") in Germany, called: "Im Dunkeln tappen"
cacheman, your collection of Goetz medals is very impressive and your photos are excellent.
LordM, what happend to that 3 Mark proof coin, did you sell it?
I'm a convert myself holding a strong assortment of "Lightside material", however I fell into the "darkside" unwittingly when I gave myself over to collecting Athenian Owls, Named Ship Coins, and a my own herd of Penguins, and my Ancient Roman and Greek coins.
While I ocassionally post on the US Coins Forum, most of my time is spent here looking at coins I never knew existed and from countries I hardly gave a thought to in the normal course of events. Once again Welcome Aboard.
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This handful of folks who collected ancients, world coins, paper money, etc., found ourselves answering questions and then started showing off what we collected and slowly grew a family of folks who became known as Darksiders. That term came out of a joke I made once about how for most of the US collectors, everything else numismatic was essentially terra incognita and we were just the "deepest, darkest side" of numismatics to them. The term Dark Side stuck and later on we added "Greyside" for collectors of Canadian coins and toy with others as you've noticed above. It's even migrated to other coin sites like NGC's forums and Coin Talk and elsewhere. Essentially, though, the Dark Side is all of numismatics other than US coin collectors collecting only US coins. I've resurrected a thread on the colorful "lore" of the Dark Side, much of which, unfortunately, has been archived.
Oh, and as for myself, my main collecting area is German Imperial era coins and banknotes. In particular, my special focus is German East African coinage, which I collect in vz-st or, preferably, st. As adding new examples have grown much harder, I've been taking a sabbatical and exploring the medallic art of the art nouveau and art deco movements which produced some of the finest works in coinage in modern times.
Come on over ... to The Dark Side!