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Moss: Tasteless

joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
you gotta be kidding me. How can a guy this talented have nothing upstairs?

JS

Is Packer fan going to take this?

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  • lmao..what exactly was he doing? Mooning the crowd? lol you hear him at the beggining of the game? he goes "Read the Motherf uhcking scoreboard" hhahaha
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    I like Joe Buck...that was disgusting!!! That was disgusting! LOL..go watch baseball
    joe!

    JS
  • Ok.


    I admit it.


    I frickin laughed.



    Butt come awn Randy....


    Am I speaking Chinese?



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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    what did he do?
  • Mooned the crowd, well pretended to. Imagine if he REALLY did?
    Am I speaking Chinese?



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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    after the score he mocked mooned the crowd and then wiped his *ss on the goal post

    JS
  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    damn that funny but not classy! but what do you expect out of moss.
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    He turned his back to the end zone crowd and made a mooning motion in their direction. I thought it was kinda funny.
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  • J.S. I saw NOTHING in your predict what Moss will do post, about Mooning the crowd. Come on man get your stuff together, I expect more outa you.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    yeah I missed that one...is it still too late to subsititute

    "wiping backside with the goal post" for "sideline pout'?

    LOL
    JS
  • zsz70zsz70 Posts: 541
    Disgraceful.

    The NFL should have rules like college about celebrations,
    because some mature grown men (TO and MOSS) can't seem to handle
    themselves like adults should.

  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Moss just doesn't get it, does he?

    It's the reason he'll be shipped out of minnesota (that and the fact the owner is trying to dump the team and wants to run it on a shoestring budget)...and some poor team will be silly enough to trade for him.

  • Why wouldn't you trade for Moss? Outside of his actions, he's the best WR in the game.
  • It's like they say about T.O. if you don't like it then stop them from scoring!
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  • zsz70zsz70 Posts: 541
    Daddy43,

    Your man Tom Landry would have kicked the
    you know what out of any of his players that
    acted like that. He tolerated absolutely none
    of that crap.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭
    Why wouldn't you trade for Moss? Outside of his actions, he's the best WR in the game.


    Well, they guy can catch anything but he's not the best WR in the game IMO. Granted, one may take the basic definition of a WR's job to only state he has to catch the ball, but this guy alienates his teammates as some of them indicated by him walking off the field before the onside kick in the last game of the season. Some players give everything they have whether they are on the field or not. When they are on the field, the run hard EVERY play and block even when the play is going to the other side of the field. They show support and enthusiasm even when the play is for someone else. They are happy to win, even when they have nothing in the stat book. If they don't get into the game, they support their teammates from the bench. Moss is not this kind of player. We have seen it time and time again. A player like this can destroy a team. These actions can lead other players to giving up. Why try hard every play when the guy who doesn't gets paid 10x more than you do? Moss doesn't make those catches without a quarterback throwing him the ball. Culppepper doesn't throw the ball without his lineman blocking for him. Moss would see triple coverage every down if they didn't have a runningback capable of moving the ball or Burleson running routes as well. He seems to forget that the "team" wins games, not just him.

    In the end, I would never consider taking this guy in a trade. I would rather take Holt, Harrison, Ward or any other WR who not only can catch the ball, but seems to care more about winning that his numbers IMO.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Moss is a punk. I'll admit TO is no angel but he would never walk off the field like Moss did. If TO never walked off in SF, then he'll never do it. A broadcaster said that Moss had walked off the field early in some games in past years also. If the Vikings coach had any guts whatsoever he would fine him severely. I guess Tice is afraid of upsetting poor little Randy with a fine. I hope the NFL fines him very severely for that obscene gesture and I expect that they will.
  • estangestang Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭
    Moss is a great player and citizen --- he does a lot for charities in Minny and West Virginia.

    I'm going to stand by the fact that he's made mistakes and he doesn't know how to articulate his feelings.

    I think the media is painting an inaccurate picture of him.

    I'll take him on my team any day.

    What is funny is listening to Michael Irvin passing judgment on Moss when this guy was busted in a room with hookers and cocaine. What about Kobe Bryant's infidelity and rape charges. What about Michael Jordan's gambling and alleged infidelities. What about Babe Ruth's behavior.

    I don't condone his actions, but what he did last week by walking off the field created the team unity and confidence that this team has been lacking. Packers head coach told Jimmy Johnson that he was afraid it would happen.

    SKOL VIKINGS!
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    What is funny is listening to Michael Irvin passing judgment on Moss when this guy was busted in a room with hookers and cocaine

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  • << <i>Moss is a great player and citizen --- he does a lot for charities in Minny and West Virginia.

    I'm going to stand by the fact that he's made mistakes and he doesn't know how to articulate his feelings.

    I think the media is painting an inaccurate picture of him.

    I'll take him on my team any day. >>



    Well said.
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Funny, I never saw Jerry Rice mooning the crowd, I guess when you have rings on your
    fingers you don't have to do stuff like that!

    JS
  • estangestang Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭
    Here's what I don't understand.

    Ray Lewis gets TV commercials and gets high high praise by the large media outlets.

    He was involved in a homicide and I believe perjured himself to authorities. He was acquitted but was directly involved in "his friends or associates" murdering someone in Atlanta during Super Bowl week.

    Randy Moss moons the Packers, walks off the field 2 seconds before a game was over and tell Minneapolis Star-Tribune columnist Sid Hartman that he plays when he wants to play. And he bumped a traffic cop that was deemed to be over-zealous at 1 MPH.

    Randy Moss gets more bad press than Jayson Williams blowing away his limo driver with a shotgun and then trying to cover it up. Sh!t, he'll probably get off. The guys says he wants to make an NBA come-back.

    It's a media frenzy. A lot of it has to do with how Moss treats the media and interacts with them --- They are getting him back.

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    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Here's what I don't understand.

    Ray Lewis gets TV commercials and gets high high praise by the large media outlets.

    He was involved in a homicide and I believe perjured himself to authorities. He was acquitted but was directly involved in "his friends or associates" murdering someone in Atlanta during Super Bowl week.

    Randy Moss moons the Packers, walks off the field 2 seconds before a game was over and tell Minneapolis Star-Tribune columnist Sid Hartman that he plays when he wants to play. And he bumped a traffic cop that was deemed to be over-zealous at 1 MPH.

    Randy Moss gets more bad press than Jayson Williams blowing away his limo driver with a shotgun and then trying to cover it up. Sh!t, he'll probably get off. The guys says he wants to make an NBA come-back.

    It's a media frenzy. A lot of it has to do with how Moss treats the media and interacts with them --- They are getting him back.

    SKOL VIKINGS! >>




    But as you indicate by your replies, Moss is continually in the papers or on the TV displaying stupidity with many of his antics. The other people mentioned were in the news for much longer than Moss has ever been, but time has made most forget. Moss does this kind of stuff frequently enough that people presume this behavior is constant.

    He may be a great player (when the play is designed for him) and a great citizen (when he's not running over the police), but he doesn't always display a lot of sportsmanship and that's what gets him in trouble with the media.
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  • I was about to say that Moss is an adolescent
    in a grown man's body, but then I thought to
    myself that I've never ever seen junior high
    or high school athletes do that either.

    Imagine if you were at your high school football
    game and someone did that. Well, we had a
    "grown" man do that.

    And there are people on this board who try to
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  • Moss does a couple things that some people don't like and it's the end of the world. You never hear anybody say,"Oh, Randy Moss just scored a touchdown and gave that fan in the wheelchair a football." which happens all the time, heck, one time he gave the same wheelchair guy 2 or 3 footballs in one game. He pretend moons a few rednecks and the whole world wants his head on a stick. Get over it! He's a nicer guy than a lot of people give him credit for. The guy can score touchdowns pretty much at will, thats what really makes you people mad. I bet if he was on your team this wouldn't be such a big deal.
    Culpepper to ?, only God knows at this point!
  • 2323,

    I see your point. It's nice to hear that Moss does this.
    I did not know.

    I don't live and die with any football team. I just enjoy
    the game. That said, I do care about professional athletes
    setting a good example for kids. I teach kids in public schools,
    so I hope that athletes respect the game they are playing,
    and respect the influence they have on street kids with no fathers.

    I'm glad to hear Randy Moss is doing positive things with his
    status. But no, I would much rather have a Marvin Harrison
    then a Terrell Owens or Randy Moss.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just saw a espn report on this subject and Colt's coach Tony Dungy said after home games at Lambeau field the Pack fans after a win gather in the parking lot and moon the losing team in their busses as they are leaving.

    I think this is blown way out of proportion anyways, I enjoyed the celebration and good for the Packer fans getting a taste of their own medicine. I would take Randy any day on my team.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Moss does a couple things that some people don't like and it's the end of the world. You never hear anybody say,"Oh, Randy Moss just scored a touchdown and gave that fan in the wheelchair a football." which happens all the time, heck, one time he gave the same wheelchair guy 2 or 3 footballs in one game. He pretend moons a few rednecks and the whole world wants his head on a stick. Get over it! He's a nicer guy than a lot of people give him credit for. The guy can score touchdowns pretty much at will, thats what really makes you people mad. I bet if he was on your team this wouldn't be such a big deal. >>




    It's his attitude that turns many off, not his ability. As a youngster watching sports, there was rarely a time where you saw players talk about how great they are. They kept their mouths shut and did what they were being paid. Guys like Barry Sanders who never once did an endzone dance or Kirby Puckett who actually turned down a raise. In sports today, many players can't just go do their jobs. They have to talk $hit everytime they can and tell everyone how great they are. Many players like Kobe aren't always about winning, but more about whining because they are not the only superstar on their team. They actually think that the fans only go to the games to see them and don't think the fans will care if the team loses just as long as they have a great game.

    I remember when Chauncey Billups came to the Pistons. Chucky Atkins and him are apparently great friends. He told Dumars to go ahead and actively pursue this guy as he is a great player. He did this knowing he would lose his starting position, but cared more about helping the team improve. There are not many players in sports like that...

    As far as Moss giving away footballs, I've seen it and that's cool. Tons of players do stuff like that... Some publicly and some privately. They should as they are making millions or dollars playing a game we as fans pay them to. He has an amazing ability to catch some tough passes.
    Nothing about his ability makes me angry as you say. His occasional lapse of sportsmanship does annoy me though.
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In regards to the "obscene gesture," Randy Moss doesn't get it and some people in this forum don't get it. All this has nothing to do with Randy Moss's talent. We all know he has talent. This has everything to do with displaying inappropriate behavior at the inappropriate time and from someone who should know the difference. Really anybody maybe over five years old should know the difference. And it has to do with women. Call me old-fashioned but I do not act the same way in the presence of women as when I'm with my guy friends. Jokes, gestures, swearing, etc., that I do with guy friends, I would never do in front of women - it's that simple. Moss mooned the crowd because Green Bay has a tradition of mooning the visiting team when they are leaving on the bus. This is men f**king around with men which is fine and we f**k around all the time on this forum especially the smack talk - and I enjoy every second of it. You can call me any name or term you want and I'll laugh at it or come back with something just as harsh. But don't anyone dare, and I think I speak for everyone here, insult my mother, daughter, sister or other females we are close to - then we'd have a serious problem. This is what Randy Moss did - insult every mother, daughter and sister out there. There are a lot of women in attendance in Green Bay and on nationwide TV - to display an obscene gesture like that to the women viewers is not only bad manners but repugnant...and Randy is going to fined...a fine that I hope is at least mid-five figures. In a crude way I hope one of the mothers from one of the players in the Eagle's secondary watched that and exclaimed how repulsed she was - hopefully Randy will receive some nice jarring hits to remind him never to do that again.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Call me old-fashioned but I do not act the same way in the presence of women as when I'm with my guy friends. >>





    Ummm, you're old fashioned image Actually my wife thought the gesture itself was kind of amusing. She was in no way offended "as a woman" about what Moss did. As I have indicated, to me the problem with Moss and many other players is the lack of sportsmanship. These actions can cause reactions from other players. You know the Packers players were very upset by the way the game was going. By seeing someone do something that could be viewed as disrespectful like that, it opens the door to possible reactions from other players. Remember Owens and the Dallas star bit? Same thing. There's no place for that kind of crap on the field.
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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,636 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think people need to lighten up, give me a freakin break. It was not that repulsive, what is the big deal? He pretends to moon the fans and wiggles his rear end at the crowd, that is not nearly as offensive as when a player uses his groin in a "slamming motion" as a celebration ie: Koy Detmer pretending to do "it" from behind and slapping his hand across, I could see people getting offended there but this is pushing it.
  • Heck, maybe the women liked it. In those Angelina Jolie pictures above, the second picture over looks like she is pretending to moon us, and I like it, me likes it alot. Maybe the women feel the same way about what Moss did, we don't know. Who knows what women are thinking. Maybe the next time your woman is thinking about that and she gets frisky with YOU, you'll be thanking Randy Moss.

    Thank You Randy Moss, for being a role model for people all over the world, and for turning our women on for us. Thank You!!!!!! image
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  • Perkdog,

    I respectfully disagree. What Moss did was repulsive.
    What the Pack fans possibly do in the parking lot is repulsive too.
    Different strokes for different folks.


    I'll remember when I tell your third grader in school that mooning
    another child during the volleyball game is inappropriate, I'll know where
    his influence comes from.
  • estangestang Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭
    Dirtymonkey,

    Your thought process amuses me, as you've got Jolie showing off her arse in your sig line. To reply back to me and say Moss' behavior is constant while what Lewis and Jayson Williams were involved or Kobe Bryant was involved in was a "one time" deal is terribly sad. Comparing homicide and infidelity with a fake mooning or walking off the field 2 seconds to early is pathetic.

    Then to hear Michael Irvin passing harsh judgment on Moss while he was in a room full of prostitutes and cocaine!!! C'm frickin' on!!

    My point is not to condone Moss' behavior. My point is that the media is thrashing Moss for this behavior and hasn't done the same to other doing much worse things. The media always gets the last word.

    SKOL VIKINGS!
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    Erik
  • Moss is doing the very thing the Vikes knew would happen when they drafted him.

    And now everyone is acting surprised. Shame on them.

    He belongs with the Raiders.
  • achteyachtey Posts: 304 ✭✭✭
    I think it was tasteless and pointless. There was no reason for him to do that and I agree that there should be some stricter rules about that kind of crap. What is he, 12. I mean come on, act like the professional that he should be.


    Josh
    The world meets no one half way. If you want it you have to go get it.
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Dirtymonkey,

    Your thought process amuses me, as you've got Jolie showing off her arse in your sig line. To reply back to me and say Moss' behavior is constant while what Lewis and Jayson Williams were involved or Kobe Bryant was involved in was a "one time" deal is terribly sad. Comparing homicide and infidelity with a fake mooning or walking off the field 2 seconds to early is pathetic.

    Then to hear Michael Irvin passing harsh judgment on Moss while he was in a room full of prostitutes and cocaine!!! C'm frickin' on!!

    My point is not to condone Moss' behavior. My point is that the media is thrashing Moss for this behavior and hasn't done the same to other doing much worse things. The media always gets the last word.

    SKOL VIKINGS! >>




    Well turning around to be photographed is a little different than acting as if you're showing off your a$$, but rationalize it however you may like.

    By the way, if you actually read the words and posts in order as they were intended, my response would be clear. I'm in no way stating that the actual acts are comparable. Please indicate where I ever said the acts were comparable... Obviously what Moss did was trivial compared to the others mentioned. My response simply stated that we (and the media) no longer talk about them because it happened once a long time ago. When Moss does it, he doesn't seem to let people forget it before he does something else stupid so the cycle seems continual. So try to be clear on the intent and content of a post before trying to dismantle it.

    This Moss thing will last till the end of next weekend when they're out of the playoffs. Don't act as if we didn't have to hear about this Kobe crap or the Williams trial for like a year. Poor Moss. The media jumps on him for a week or two...
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