YOU WANNA SEE SOME REAL MONSTER TONERS???

coingame2000

If so...visit THE RAINBOW ROOM (click on the link below)

http://www.tonedcoins.org/forums/view_forum.php?id=11

Oh, put on your sun glasses...

lordmarcovan

I clicked on your link and it didn't work. (That's a trademark Russ smartazzism).

Try this one.

relayer

I do not have permission to download the attachment

K6AZ

With posts like this, there isn't going to be a whole lot of peace around here. Why do you feel the need to continually promote that board here?

coingame2000

The TCCS message board has a lot to offer those that love beautiful toned coins -- and, it's a very friendly place.

Mike

Newmismatist

Why go there? Actually fairly simple explanation: For those who like to look at phenomenally toned coins, that's where you go to see 'em! Not too hard to figure out once you go and look! Bring a Bib - 'cause this is just a sample of what's being posted in the Rainbow Room at TCCS!



Here's a link that takes directly to the most colorful coins on the web!

Linky to the Rainbow Room

K6AZ

You guys want people to go there, fine. But I find it just a wee bit suspicious when I start a toned Morgan thread here, and then we are told if you want to see "real" toned Morgans, go here. Your BS is becoming way too obvious.

Newmismatist

Eric

I think the forum members are quite capable of looking at more than one thread and in more than one place. If you don't like to look at Killer coins - don't look, but others may enjoy the show - after all, aren't these boards supposed to be about COINS? You don't really have a problem with letting the people here know where they can look at some great Coins - maybe they shouldn't go to FUN - they might see some neat stuff.

Why would you possibly have a problem with that. Do you honestly believe that the people here only want to see what you post? Get a life - they want to look at coins. Are you suggesting that your threads are the ony threads that people should look at?

Why are you so negative? - it's about the COINS, not who started a particularly thread. Kick back, relax, enjoy the COINS - that's what it's all about - and, if you don't want to look at some neat stuff, you don't have to - Pretty simple - Some people enjoy beautiful toned coins, some don't - apparantly you don't - but nobody is forcing you to look.



<< <i>With posts like this, there isn't going to be a whole lot of peace around here. >>

Wow, you mean to say that suggesting that someone go to another website to look at COINS is going to cause YOU to become UNPEACEFUL? Can our fellow members look at Coins like the one that Mark Feld posted from the ANR website? Can they go to ANR's website, or will that cause you to be unpeaceful? Has your arragonace now reaced the point where you think that these boards are your property and you can dictate to other what they should look at and where they are permitted to look? Give it a rest Eric - it's about looking at coins and having fun doing it.



<< <i>Why do you feel the need to continually promote that board here? >>

It's not rocket science - there's some great coins over there - I'm surprised you even have to ask - maybe you're just unable to appreciate the coins that go in the A boxes. But that's your problem, isn't it - if others want to go and look, why does that bother you? Why do you need to be so persistently negative?

Come on down to FUN - you might get a chance to see some great Coins - Oh I forgot - you CAN"T GO to FUN can you? It's in Florida and you can't go to Florida. Too bad, but I guess that's your problem too.

K6AZ

Real good Ron. I sure hope you aren't still representing yourself to Akerman as a "friend of the defendants". Doesn't matter, I've demanded that they have no further contact with you, and if you persist you may just find yourself on the wrong end of your favorite litigitious society.

Newmismatist

Eric, you're your own worst enemy. You're in no position to threaten anyone with litigation, you've got all you need right now - certainly not a smart idea to go looking for more. But do whatever you want - it's a free country. My suggestion, which is by no means legal advice, is go look at some coins, it's a lot more fun and a lot less stressful.

morgannut2

For what it's worth, I really learn from some of K6's posts, I think the idea of a TCCS is great, and I bought two nice toned
original Morgans from TBT (!!!) at the ANA and one upgraded at PCGS. At some point the legal stuff, while interesting, isn't
or shouldn't be the main part of this HOBBY in my opinion. I no longer feel free to even give my opinion on a toned coin
in a public forum, even though hobby enjoyment with the increase and diffussion of knowledge is supposed to be one of
the enjoyable, debateable, and intellectually stimulating parts of coin collecting.

kryptonitecomics

TCCS is a great site...PCGS has a great site......NGC has a great site........I don't see the problem here??? I have seen several nice toners that you have posted Eric and have made positive comments.....I will continue to do so, but please let other make up their own minds what they want to look it......................which in most case will include both threads

IrishMike

Is anyone else amazed how often a fun thread like this can be turned into something contentious? Morgannut makes no difference what you post, some folks will find a way to go after it just to keep stirring up a personal vendetta.

coingame2000

Mike,

I'm not surprised at all -- it happens far too often over here. Heck, I post an innocent thread on this message board regarding awesome toned dollar images on the TCCS website and zap, the venom starts flowing. I've had it with the childish behavior and tantrums on the part of a few over here so I'm gonna say goodbye for now and head off to greener pastures.

Best To All,

Mike

JrGMan2004

Bye Mike, c-ya on the TCCS Forum

TUMUSS

If you REALLY want to see some MONSTER tanners....

OHHHH you said toners....

RYK

OHHHH you said toners....

Those are ton-ers!

mgoodm3

MY EYES, MY EYES!

100proof1957

I coulda gone the rest of my life without seeing that !
Link to more wild toners,adults only please

Russ

The skinny redhead looks out of place.

Russ, NCNE

Newmismatist

<< <i> I no longer feel free to even give my opinion on a toned coin in a public forum >>

MorganNut2 - over at the TCCs forums we welcome people's opinions and the discussion about toned coins- that 's how we all learn - we can discuss, agree or disagree - we share knoweldge about toned coins, the toning process and all that goes with this segment of our hobby. BUT we are NOT disagreeable. We don't threaten, we don't flame one another if my opinion happens to differ from yours.


<< <i> even though hobby enjoyment with the increase and diffussion of knowledge is supposed to be one of the enjoyable, debateable, and intellectually stimulating parts of coin collecting >>

That's exactly MY view on collecting coins - and that's the philosphy at TCCS - I don't know everything there is to know about coins - I learn something new at every coin show I go to. I learn much from reading the intelligent discourse that occurs between members who have specialized knowledge in areas that I'm not familiar with. But in order to learn you have keep an open mind, listen to what others say and and use that information to increase your own knowledge. But that will NOT happen if there's name calling and flame wars - the exchange of ideas will get lost in the smoke and fire.

Right now our Forum members are displaying images of wonderful toned coins for the enjoyment of ALL - they are sharing their knowledge with others that seldom gets into the public venue, but is well know amoung those who have collected toned coins for many years. How many people know the origin of many of the finest toned Morgan Dollars that are in today's Marketplace? Go to the TCCS and read this thread:
Why are there "More" toned coins today than 40 years ago?
Take a look at the comments by ArtR and Paragon, one a very knowledgeable collector and one a very knowledgable dealer - who have been involved in toned coins for over 30 and 20 years respectively - there are other members over there who are willing to share their knowledge and love of coins because we appreciate the opportunity to look, listen and learn.

That's what coin collecting is ALL about - to coin a phrase: "It's about the COINS, stupid"

Would you like to see 3 MONSTER toned coins? Well, bring your bibs, buy a pair of depends - because, if you like toned coins - you'll wet your pants when you see these (just posted this morning).
Linky to MONSTER toned coins
In fact - if you brouse thru the Forum entitled "Rainbow Room" you'll soon be on visual overlaod - the coins being posted over there, are in a word: AWESOME

TUMUSS

<< <i>skinny redhead >>

mrearlygold

Personally I like the new forum and the information that's being posted for collectors as well as anyone who is interested in Numismatics".

Tom

coingame2000

ttt

Bustman

It's a nice start to a very promising forum!

roadrunner

As far as there being more toners around today than ever before, that is surely not the case with classic type coins. There are less than ever due to NCS. Originally toned type coins are a dying breed.
Concerning commems, 20th century coins, moderns, and Morgans, I have no idea whether the number is increasing or not.

roadrunner

K6AZ

<< <i>For what it's worth, I really learn from some of K6's posts, I think the idea of a TCCS is great, and I bought two nice toned
original Morgans from TBT (!!!) at the ANA and one upgraded at PCGS. At some point the legal stuff, while interesting, isn't
or shouldn't be the main part of this HOBBY in my opinion. I no longer feel free to even give my opinion on a toned coin
in a public forum, even though hobby enjoyment with the increase and diffussion of knowledge is supposed to be one of
the enjoyable, debateable, and intellectually stimulating parts of coin collecting. >>



It's unfortunate, but that is the reality today, and Newmismatist is one of the leaders of telling people they should not voice their opinions, or facts, even if they can be proved, because you might get sued.

This thread is just another example of Newmismatist and his friends baiting me and screwing with me. If the intention was to show some toners on that board, simply titling the thread something like "Check out these toners" would have sufficed and I would have never posted to it. However, after I start a thread to post toned Morgans, and it starts to become active, a friend of Newmismatist shows up and titles the thread "YOU WANNA SEE SOME REAL MONSTER TONERS???" one can only assume that the inference is that the coins posted in the thread I started aren't "real".

And finally, one would be curious why Newmismatist is locally saving every thread I post to.

Newmismatist

<< <i>It's unfortunate, but that is the reality today, and Newmismatist is one of the leaders of telling people they should not voice their opinions, or facts, even if they can be proved, because you might get sued. >>


Actually Eric, quite untrue - I'm not telling people NOT to voice their opinions, I'm suggesting that they be careful as to what they say and how they say it. Opinions should be voiced, but if you or others voice your opinion in a Libelous way, someone might file a lawsuit and you might find out in a very unpleasant and costly way that Libeling others can subject you to damages - People are "free" to say and post what they want - if they say it in the wrong way, it might not be so free.



<< <i>This thread is just another example of Newmismatist and his friends baiting me and screwing with me. If the intention was to show some toners on that board, simply titling the thread something like "Check out these toners" would have sufficed and I would have never posted to it. However, after I start a thread to post toned Morgans, and it starts to become active, a friend of Newmismatist shows up and titles the thread "YOU WANNA SEE SOME REAL MONSTER TONERS???" one can only assume that the inference is that the coins posted in the thread I started aren't "real". >>


Eric- sounds like you're getting a bit paranoid - First, I neither told nor knew that this thread was going to be posted. It is certainly true that Coingame2000 is a friend, and I have a lot of friends on these boards, but I never know in advance what they plan on posting here, and it's absurd to imply that I'm the impetus behind other's posts or threads. Further, I am unaware of any rule that anyone need check with you before they title their threads. You seem to be suffering from the delusion that these are your boards and others must check with you before posting threads here. Unless you've recently acquired ownership in Collectors Universe, I don't believe anyone has to check with you before they post here. I think Coingame2000 started this thread to encourage people to come over to the TCCS website and see some very nice coins as in "REALLY" neat coins! - I never construed the title of this thread in any way suggesting that the coins you posted were not "real", nor do I think any rational person would construe it in that manner. Your problem seems to be a limited understanding of the English language, coupled with a very negative nature which results in you "going to WAR" with those with whom you disagree. - As far as "baiting me and screwing with" people, that is exactly your method of responding to other people on this forum, and particularly in this thread. You'd get along (and be friends) with a lot more people if you would begin to contribute to these boards in a positive and friendly manner. It's inconceivable to me that anyone should need to go to WAR when they disagree with someone. That type of behavior borders on a pathological illness. Perhaps you need to reasses the way in which you respond to other's posts



<< <i> And finally, one would be curious why Newmismatist is locally saving every thread I post to. >>

Absolutely no clue as to what you are saying here - your posts are the last thing I would want to save - If you mean why are they quoted? the answer is quite simple - one need not scroll up and done to figure out the context of what my post is responding to; makes the reading much easier - and I note that many members use quotes to give the correct context to their responses - there are often several intervening posts and it can be confusing to read a response that's out of context. However, if you would quit posting such inane comments, you wouldn't have to read them twice and realize how very silly you are beginning to sound. As I suggested above - Enjoy yourself, go look at some nice coins - it's a lot of fun!

K6AZ

Ron, first of all on the libel business - again, you can say otherwise, but if I say someone is a fraud, and I have the transcripts of the court case where a jury found that person had comitted fraud, that is not libel. If I say a grading company slabs altered coins, and I have several altered coins in their slabs in my possession, that is not libel. To even remotely suggest that stating true facts is libel is ridiculous. Can someone sue you even if what you state is true? Of course, anyone can sue anyone for anything. However, once a business or individual files several SLAPP suits to harass his critics, bad things can happen to him legally.

As far as this thread goes, come on, I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. And the fact that Mr. DeFalco ttt'ed this thread after it dropped to the third page tells me all I need to know.

rainbowroosie

Hey guys, everyone take a chill pill. Freedom of expression is a wonderful thing and the cornerstone of our society. Think of those guys getting shelled everyday in Iraq to protect YOUR right to free speech...they are the ones "at war." Put all of this petty bickering into a proper perspective.

K6AZ

Hey rainbowrosie, better be careful. This is what Flame Warriors says:

Diplomat butts into hot disputes, presuming that the combatants will welcome and appreciate his even-handed and eminently reasonable mediation. Frankly, he gets what he deserves.



Flame Warriors

rainbowroosie

I like that!

coingame2000

"And the fact that Mr. DeFalco ttt'ed this thread after it dropped to the third page tells me all I need to know."

Eric -- After a mere five days of existence, the TCCS message board has over ONE HUNDRED members and more than ONE THOUSAND posts so something pretty cool is happening over there and I want to introduce others to it, plain and simple.

There is no conspiracy on my part to bait you in any way, nor am I a mouthpiece for Ron (although we are very good friends). I have always been an independent, self motivated and self directed entrepeneurial type, which precludes me from being anyone's puppet.

In conclusion Eric, my thread was about REAL MONSTER TONED COINS -- not about you. Moreover, I utilized the word "real" in my title of my thread to emphasize MONSTER quality -- NOT to infer that your toned coins are not genuine. It is truly unfortunate that you misinterpreted, misunderstood and misconstrued the intent of my thread and subsequent "ttt".


Best Regards,

Mike De Falco

Bear

ttt

Newmismatist

Eric, as near as I can tell, this thread is and has been about looking at some REALLY NEAT TONED COINS
Although this seems to upset you for reasons that totally escapes any semblence of logic, That's really what this is ALL about - as I said earlier: to coin a phrase: "It's about the COINS, stupid"

As for your comments regarding what you did or didn't say and whether it is or isn't true, you get to resolve that in a court of law as there is pending litigation as to that matter, and you're not going to be able to prove anything here to me or anyone else - In fact, for whatever it's worth, for you to even discuss it here is not particularly wise. But say what you want, you have certainly convinced me that you will say things whether they are in your best interests or not - just remember there are others in that suit also, and what you say here could affect them also.

Myqqy

I don't have much interest in being a diplomat, but I do want to say that that picture from Tumuss was UNCALLED FOR!!!

K6AZ

<< <i>"And the fact that Mr. DeFalco ttt'ed this thread after it dropped to the third page tells me all I need to know."

Eric -- After a mere five days of existence, the TCCS message board has over ONE HUNDRED members and more than ONE THOUSAND posts so something pretty cool is happening over there and I want to introduce others to it, plain and simple.

There is no conspiracy on my part to bait you in any way, nor am I a mouthpiece for Ron (although we are very good friends). I have always been an independent, self motivated and self directed entrepeneurial type, which precludes me from being anyone's puppet.

In conclusion Eric, my thread was about REAL MONSTER TONED COINS -- not about you. Moreover, I utilized the word "real" in my title of my thread to emphasize MONSTER quality -- NOT to infer that your toned coins are not genuine. It is truly unfortunate that you misinterpreted, misunderstood and misconstrued the intent of my thread and subsequent "ttt".


Best Regards,

Mike De Falco >>



Well, if that board is so poplular and everyone knows about it, why do we continue to be saturated with posts promoting it here?

And in regards to "monster toned" coins, as I have stated many times, it's one of the worst gimmicks in coins today. Nine times out of ten, when I see a common 64 with a four digit price tag, it doesn't take much searching at Heritage or the other auction houses to find where it traded hands at a quarter of the new ask price. Most people don't have the money, or the desire, to get involved in these. There was one of these that a board member bought a couple years ago, and no one would even offer him half of what he paid for it. For people new here, use the board search engine and use the keywords barney dollar.

Newmismatist

<< <i>I don't have much interest in being a diplomat, but I do want to say that that picture from Tumuss was UNCALLED FOR!!! >>



Wow, ain't that the truth

Maybe this'll help - one of the toners posted over in the Rainbow Room:

Here's another:


That place is chock full of coins like that! As Mike said:

<< <i>SOME REAL MONSTER TONERS >>


Linky to the most colorful coin forum in cyberspace!

K6AZ

<< <i>"And the fact that Mr. DeFalco ttt'ed this thread after it dropped to the third page tells me all I need to know."

Eric -- After a mere five days of existence, the TCCS message board has over ONE HUNDRED members and more than ONE THOUSAND posts so something pretty cool is happening over there and I want to introduce others to it, plain and simple.

There is no conspiracy on my part to bait you in any way, nor am I a mouthpiece for Ron (although we are very good friends). I have always been an independent, self motivated and self directed entrepeneurial type, which precludes me from being anyone's puppet.

In conclusion Eric, my thread was about REAL MONSTER TONED COINS -- not about you. Moreover, I utilized the word "real" in my title of my thread to emphasize MONSTER quality -- NOT to infer that your toned coins are not genuine. It is truly unfortunate that you misinterpreted, misunderstood and misconstrued the intent of my thread and subsequent "ttt".


Best Regards,

Mike De Falco >>



Well, if that board is so poplular and everyone knows about it, why do we continue to be saturated with posts promoting it here?

And in regards to "monster toned" coins, as I have stated many times, it's one of the worst gimmicks in coins today. Nine times out of ten, when I see a common 64 with a four digit price tag, it doesn't take much searching at Heritage or the other auction houses to find where it traded hands at a quarter of the new ask price. Most people don't have the money, or the desire, to get involved in these. There was one of these that a board member bought a couple years ago, and no one would even offer him half of what he paid for it. For people new here, use the board search engine and use the keywords barney dollar.

IrishMike

Eric you give way too much importance to what we think about you. This isn't meant as a critcism, but these boards don't revolve around one person, even you. For you to suggest that this thread was started with an iota of a thought about how you would react to it is quite frankly ludicrous. Why do you insist on trying to turn many threads into a battle? All I can think of is that you exist for confrontation. There is no other answer because for you to think that this thread was about you is prepostorous and narcissitic on your part at the very least. I really wish you'd stop with this, its ruining too many threads here.

Bear

The new Toned Coin Forum is of interest to a number of Forum members

here at CU. It is coin related, has beautiful pictures and covers a most distinct

area of coin collecting. I for one am very happy to see cross pollination of

ideas, between the various Forums. If one doesnt like it, thats fine, just dont read

the comments or references.

K6AZ

Hey Mike, you have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. And I'm getting a little tired of you and some others here that pop into a thread and start crap, then when I return it, you turn around and call me the problem. Go back and read that thread where I announced the new ACG suit. Several people including you just could not resist the opportunity to start garbage, but I guess it's OK when you do it.

doop

You guys (gals) are either already phsyco or are heading in that direction, RAPIDLY.
What ever happened to just good 'ol coin collecting,dibbling, dabbling and dealing for JCS !
Everyone has to be a DH nowadays....
Learn the rules men (ladies) and move on already...

Newmismatist

Hmmm another negative post from Eric - why am I not surprised? Here's a coin that I call "Green with Envy" it's the perfect response and probably explains a lot as to why Eric seem to be at WAR with our very pleasant group of coin connoisseurs:





<< <i>Well, if that board is so poplular and everyone knows about it, why do we continue to be saturated with posts promoting it here? >>


Well we are kinda new and not everyone knows that our website is up and running - is that OK with you?



<< <i>And in regards to "monster toned" coins, as I have stated many times, it's one of the worst gimmicks in coins today. Nine times out of ten, when I see a common 64 with a four digit price tag, it doesn't take much searching at Heritage or the other auction houses to find where it traded hands at a quarter of the new ask price. >>


Well the sad thing is that you have what you have stated many times is just plain wrong, inaccruate or in most cases, just your opininion. Many coins are bought in Heritage auctions by dealers who buy them with the intention of selling them for a profit. Why do you harp on that. Exactly what's wrong with buying a coin and selling it for a "profit". They buy them in the open market and they sell them to willing buyers. You seem to have this vendetta against coin dealers who buy and sell coins. It's no more a "gimmick" than the concept of assigning numerical grades to coins - why should a nice looking MS64 be worth 1/10th the price of an MS65? Is that "just a gimmick"? Take a look at the price differential betwen many MS64 Morgans and the next grade up. Example: 1879 MS64 Bid $100; MS65 Bid $900 - you can go down the list and find many, many coins where the price spread between the grade and the next higher grade is 5 to 10 times more. So what does that prove? It proves that an astute collector or dealer who knows how to grade can potentilly make 5 to 10 times his money if he can buy a coin that is really a higher grade than what is shown on the slab. You yourself have posted a coin that you felt was undergraded and would upgrade. Grades, toning and value are are inter-twined, but you seem upset that someone would buy a coin and than later sell it for a profit. What's wrong with that? - It happens in America all the time 24/7, 365 days a year. It's the busines model of every business I know of. Sell your goods for more than you pay for them.


<< <i> Most people don't have the money, or the desire, to get involved in these. >>

Eric, that's the beauty of America - they don't have to buy these coins if they don't want to.


<< <i>There was one of these that a board member bought a couple years ago, and no one would even offer him half of what he paid for it. For people new here, use the board search engine and use the keywords barney dollar. >>

Well Eric, I don't know the coin, but I do know that you can pay too much for any collectable whether coins, comic books or beenie babies. Go to a jewelry store buy virtually anythin and see waht you can get for it if you try and sell it. If the TCCS had been up and running before he bought a toned coin, there are probably 20 to 30 people who would have gladly shared their knowledge with him as to the value of toned coins and which ones carry significant premiums and which ones are only ordinary. Some toned coins - you have many and have bragged that they are not the A coins - simply do not warrant significant premiums. On the other hand there are some toned coins that are "Priceless" - If you've ever seen GSAGuys' UN-slabbed coins you would understand - they are worth many multiples of greysheet - in fact, like many of the coins being posted in the Rainbow Room over on the TCCS boards, you can throw the gresheet away - it has no relevence to the value of those coins. Because you think they are over-priced, does NOT mean that they are over-priced, particularly when some very astute collectors and dealers are willing to speak emphatically with their pocket book and buy them. Not every is as limited in their knowledge and appreciation of beautiful toned coins as you are. You are actually in the minority in this area. To be blunt: you are clueless as to both the quality and value of these coins, and from what you've posted on these boards your equally clueless as to what consitutes genuine MONSTER bag toning and which coins are AT.

The the answer to your question of why some of us mention TCCS here is quite simple: It's an Organization for those who enjoy collecting toned coins. There are many members here who enjoy collecting toned coins - we like to share that enjoyment - I like to post here, particularly on positive threads that give others information which they might find either helpful or enjoyable. As for your suggestion that someone paid too much for a toned coin, paying too much for anything can occur if the buyer doesn't obtain a good working knowledge of what they are buying. One of the things that we try to do over at TCCS is help people acquire that knowledge - not in a negative way, but in a positive and helpful way. I guess the real question is: If you don't like really nice toned coins, why do you post to this thread? Do you really think you can convince those people who like and enjoy collecting these beautiful coins that they should only collect what you like or approve of? Your arrogance knows no bounds - Collectors who like really nice coins do not seem to be inclined to limit themselves to what you think are high end coins - I think you're just going have to accept that fact. Get a life - go look at some nice coins.
Here's where:

The Rainbow Room

coingame2000

"Hey Mike, you have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. And I'm getting a little tired of you and some others here that pop into a thread and start crap, then when I return it, you turn around and call me the problem. Go back and read that thread where I announced the new ACG suit. Several people including you just could not resist the opportunity to start garbage, but I guess it's OK when you do it. "

Eric -- I started a thread introducing US Coin forum members to THE RAINBOW ROOM on the TCCS message board where lots of really cool killer toned dollars are posted -- coins I know they would appreciate. How can you construe that as "starting crap"? Furthermore, I could care less about the ACG lawsuit because I'm not involved in any manner whatsoever so what would it benefit me to sieze "the opportunity to start garbage"? What's up with all these paranoid delusions of yours?

The fact is, not everyone (including me) is out to get you. I don't even know you personally -- and from the tone of your response to my thread -- I don't want to! Still, I harbor no ill will toward you and wish you well.

Best Regards,

Mike De Falco

K6AZ

Mike (DeFalco), I was addressing Irish Mike in that post.

K6AZ

<< <i>Hmmm another negative post from Eric - why am I not surprised? >>



And you have never made a negative post? You are the one who started this recent round by butting into the new federal lawsuit announcement.

Green with envy? I don't think so. I wonder how many "monster" toned Morgans I could buy with this:



If I am going to buy a coin worth thousands of dollars, it is going to be a genuinely scarce coin, not an overhyped common Morgan selling for 50x sheet price.

coingame2000

Eric,

I didn't see Irish Mike's post and "assumed" your reply was directed at me so I stand corrected. See what "assumptions" can lead to? Maybe there's a lesson in this for all of us.

Best Regards,

Mike De Falco

IrishMike

Eric here is your comment in one of the famous barney threads.

As far as the "Barney's Coin Saga" I think it was a perfect example of a newbie to coins jumping in way over his head and as Bryan said, paying the 'tuition'. Someone with no experience in the toned Morgan market should have never bought a coin like that to begin with.

Now, as far as "taxpayers paid for it" that is simply untrue. From what I understand, Barney filed and won a Social Security Disability Insurance claim. This is not SSI which is basically a welfare program. SSDI is paid for with your credits that you pay in Social Security taxes. It would be the same as saying a retired person getting SS retirement checks is on public assistance, which we all know is not true, you pay into the system.

-------------------------
"If the coin business was regulated like the stock market, a lot of dealers would be wearing black and white pinstripes"

Another of your comments:

He is just another in the long line of would be collectors who discovered coins are not a good short term investment. And as I stated earlier, as a new collector, he was really out of his league paying what was it, around $2k for a common MS64 with color? Even I won't play with commons with that kind of premium, mainly because I prefer to spend that kind of loot on really scarce high grade Morgans.


Link

Eric I am hardly in your league as a forum inciter. If I feel correctly and passionately about something I speak up. Unlike you I don't feel it necessary to inundate the coin forum with vitriol almost on a daily basis.

K6AZ

And what exactly does the SS comment have to do with anything here?

Yeah, I'm negative all the time. Every one of the 7000 posts I have made is negative. I don't know why you decided to join in here, but as long as I'm on the receiving end of the same crap I have been getting for the last several weeks here, I'm certainly not going to back down.

IrishMike

Social Security had nothing to do with it. It was part of that post, I posted the entire post you made so you wouldn't have accused me of editing your comments, duh. BTW there are several posts in the archives, but some points were well made in the thread I linked. Barney was a nice man who suffered medically and as he admitted made rush decisions that were not well thought out. I wouldn't use him as an example of how the dealer community treats their clients. Barney is certainly an exception.

However the lesson is there, if you don't know what you are doing stay out of the big leagues. How anyone can price a wildly toned coin and know how to do so in that or this market is a matter of experience and knowledge. Barney had neither. All of us have seen what we thought were very high prices paid for these coins. As one of our members is apt to say, you either love and you gotta have and will pay the price or you won't. It isn't my job or anyone else's to play coin cop for these folks. Last thing I have to say on this subject ( I think).

Edited to add: I see your paranoia is still in full bloom.